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    Were the HJ in those areas authorised to wear the metal cap Edelweiss?


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    I've read that the insignia was ordered to be worn on the collar as the photos show. In the Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt for the HJ-organization a special issue was pulblished (Sonderdruck 7/38) dating September 30, 1938 about the service-dress for HJ and DJ. It states that for the Hochland Gebiet that all forms of cap would wear the Edelweiss. It is to be positioned in the middle of the left side of the cap, close to the lowest edge. Leaders were not authorized to wear the Edelweiss.

    Orders about the Edelweiss for the Austrian HJ would be announced later.
    The regulations from the above mentioned periodical dated June 16, 1939, more then six months later, on page 219, the text practically literally translated states:

    The Edelweiss-insignia for the Obergebiet Südost has to be worn immediately from now on with the shirt, the blouse and winterblouse, as also with all forms of clothings for the leaders and the highest leaders (Führerkorps) with the exception of the leaders greatcoat with black cuffs.
    It has to be worn at the right lapel of the tunic or respectively the collar for the shirt in such way that the stem for the insignia has to point into the outer tip of the collar.

    Credit to W. Saris for the above information.
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    Here are the two edelweiss types

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    Thanks for posting the pictures!

    The Edelweiss with the swasi that looks very collectable Is that yours Henrik?

    I have not come across that one before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefolgschaft View Post
    I've read that the insignia was ordered to be worn on the collar as the photos show. In the Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt for the HJ-organization a special issue was pulblished (Sonderdruck 7/38) dating September 30, 1938 about the service-dress for HJ and DJ. It states that for the Hochland Gebiet that all forms of cap would wear the Edelweiss. It is to be positioned in the middle of the left side of the cap, close to the lowest edge. Leaders were not authorized to wear the Edelweiss.

    Orders about the Edelweiss for the Austrian HJ would be announced later.
    The regulations from the above mentioned periodical dated June 16, 1939, more then six months later, on page 219, the text practically literally translated states:

    The Edelweiss-insignia for the Obergebiet Südost has to be worn immediately from now on with the shirt, the blouse and winterblouse, as also with all forms of clothings for the leaders and the highest leaders (Führerkorps) with the exception of the leaders greatcoat with black cuffs.
    It has to be worn at the right lapel of the tunic or respectively the collar for the shirt in such way that the stem for the insignia has to point into the outer tip of the collar.

    Credit to W. Saris for the above information.
    Great info Many thanks

    Nick


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspear View Post
    Thanks for posting the pictures!

    The Edelweiss with the swasi that looks very collectable Is that yours Henrik?

    I have not come across that one before.

    Nick
    Yes they are both mine, and part of my NSFK collection

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    Very nice indeed

    Can you give me a bit more info on the Edelweiss with Swasi as I cant read the German text on your photo.

    I just love that badge !!!

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspear View Post
    Very nice indeed

    Can you give me a bit more info on the Edelweiss with Swasi as I cant read the German text on your photo.

    I just love that badge !!!

    Thanks

    Nick

    Members of the NSFK gruppe 14 were allowed to wear the edelweiss with the swastica. The same type was used by members of SA-Gruppe Hochland.

    Members of the NSFK gruppe 17 were allowed to wear the edelweiss withouth the swastica. The same type was used by members of SA-Gruppe Ostmark.

    Both types had to be was placed on the left side of the headgear.


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    HJ leader from the Reichsjugendführung with edelweiss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gefolgschaft View Post
    I've read that the insignia was ordered to be worn on the collar as the photos show. In the Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt for the HJ-organization a special issue was pulblished (Sonderdruck 7/38) dating September 30, 1938 about the service-dress for HJ and DJ. It states that for the Hochland Gebiet that all forms of cap would wear the Edelweiss. It is to be positioned in the middle of the left side of the cap, close to the lowest edge. Leaders were not authorized to wear the Edelweiss.

    Orders about the Edelweiss for the Austrian HJ would be announced later.
    The regulations from the above mentioned periodical dated June 16, 1939, more then six months later, on page 219, the text practically literally translated states:

    The Edelweiss-insignia for the Obergebiet Südost has to be worn immediately from now on with the shirt, the blouse and winterblouse, as also with all forms of clothings for the leaders and the highest leaders (Führerkorps) with the exception of the leaders greatcoat with black cuffs.
    It has to be worn at the right lapel of the tunic or respectively the collar for the shirt in such way that the stem for the insignia has to point into the outer tip of the collar.

    Credit to W. Saris for the above information.
    Ah, warms my heart to see detailed info like that :thumbup1: Yes, all references are correct. Wouldn't expect anything less from Wim of course.

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