HJ summer cap - HJ-Führeranwärter

[Garry]

Here's an interesting summer cap. I came across this on the german forum 'MFF' where it is described as a 'HJ-Führeranwärter' cap. This would translate as 'HJ leader in waiting' or 'HJ leader candidate'. This is making me think of the possibility that this was perhaps worn by candidates at the Leadership academy Braunschweig. If so then it can't have been worn for long as the first and last full course at the academy was only 4 weeks into it's year of training before it was cancelled due to the outbreak of war.

Has anyone seen one of these before or does anyone have any further info? I'm struggling with this one and can't find any regulations which mention it.

Also, if you look at the silver cord it appears to have been applied over a marine blue cord.

[Gefolgschaft -]

I've seen this very cap before. I think it was discussed a little on the old forum. I don't remeber where the thread is, but I am sure it's the same cap. Edit, here's the link to the old forum thread Garry.

http://hitlerjugend.forumn.net/unifo...ions-t2198.htm

[Garry]

Ah, my crap memory strikes again :) Thanks Darin. While we are waiting for more comments on this thread I think I'll write to the owner and ask whether he was able to find a period reference for the leader candidate thing.

[Gefolgschaft -]

Let us know what you find out Garry. Seems that nobody could positively I.D. this caps piping before, hopefully something new has surfaced about it.

[Garry]

On the old forum he says he bought it at a market but on the german forum it was apparently found by a friend in an old gentleman's attic.... Not a good start. I've added a question to the thread on MFF. Let's see if someone answers. As with the thread on the old forum the thread on MFF was also inconclusive so let's see if someone answers with more reliable info.

[stuart -]

still think the cord has been added to a normal cap to try and increase its value

[halle25558]

hello
i was searching the net to get some information of caps from the hj and i found the old forum closed a time ago.
surprisingly i found my own cap here on this thread.

i had put pictures from it on different sites and yes it is true i matched some things together.sorry about that.

the real storry is the storry with the friend and the old men in my hometown.i didnt wanted to grade up the cap even it is not for sale and will never be.

but now the reason why i post here:
look at that one

On the old forum he says he bought it at a market but on the german forum it was apparently found by a friend in an old gentleman's attic.... Not a good start. I've added a question to the thread on MFF. Let's see if someone answers. As with the thread on the old forum the thread on MFF was also inconclusive so let's see if someone answers with more reliable info.

[halle25558]

nobody with any idea??

hello
i was searching the net to get some information of caps from the hj and i found the old forum closed a time ago.
surprisingly i found my own cap here on this thread.

i had put pictures from it on different sites and yes it is true i matched some things together.sorry about that.

the real storry is the storry with the friend and the old men in my hometown.i didnt wanted to grade up the cap even it is not for sale and will never be.

but now the reason why i post here:
look at that one

[zeller]

Hello, I am missing something. Is that another HJ cap you own? the piping looks the same but the type of caps are different.
It looks thicker than the Wehrmacht officer's piping but I am somehow reluctant to label it as added postwar. I can't help with a sure Id but I'd keep it as it is.

[halle25558]

hello yes it is a new one i got a couple month ago i would be happy with any help if better pictures are needy just let me know thanks

Hello, I am missing something. Is that another HJ cap you own? the piping looks the same but the type of caps are different.
It looks thicker than the Wehrmacht officer's piping but I am somehow reluctant to label it as added postwar. I can't help with a sure Id but I'd keep it as it is.