Hitler Youth greatcoat (HJ Mantel) with belt and early Assmann HJ buckle

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My new HJ Wintercoat.

I received the coat together with the early "Assmann" buckle and a really nice "Croupon" belt.

I hope the coat is completely without doubt.

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You have a nice and original Hj-Mantel. I have one too and I think it is a very esthetic garment.
 
Thanks to you...
on a german side there was some doubts about the coat. The pockets look strange....
And then they show a link to a flakhelfer coat with RZM label.
I have no doubts that my coat is 100% original.

@lauri
I've seen your "old" and your "new" coat"
Congratulation... both are beauties.


I dont think that there was shoulder straps or a triangle on my coat. Is it sure that on greatcoats from similar type shoulder straps and triangle was used?
 
Great greatcoat, let the doubts from the German side be doubts.
The greatcoat looks as the drawings in the January 15, 1934 booklet:
Bekleidung und Ausrüstung der HJ. Look at the pockets!

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According to the description (on page 57) it is mentioned that shoulder-straps were
to be sewn in. I may have a photo where no shoulder-straps are being worn (cannot
find one yet). The straps were anyway included in plate 7 from: Die Uniformen der HJ
from 1933.

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Thanks to you wilhelm saris...
the drawings are very helpfull. just even ordered the book.
 
hello shiggert,
you can see one with shoulder-straps on page 31 from the book
"the HJ" from angolia vol.1
bertl
 
When you have my "Handbook of the HJ" then you can find some there:
page 309 some HJ leaders with leaders shoulder-straps;
page 357 Motor-HJ member inspected by Hühnlein with the light-brown shoulder-straps;
page 446 during the war, the coat with black shouder-straps;
page 571 part of an early photograph with (difficult visible) light-brown shoulder-straps.
The full photo is shown here.

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All other photographs with great-coats I have, all do show the light-brown shoulder-straps.
 

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Thank you guys...

Wilhelm... I have to order your book.
I didn't know thats you are the writer/author of the book.

This Foto must be from your book...
A friend shows it to me and told me that your book is a must have... But i prefer a signed version :)

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Yes, the photo is in my book, originally from the National Archives.
My name is on the cover (see enclosed image). You can order from Bender.
I do not have any copies left myself!

When you have got it, you can PM me and I'll take care for a signed sticker.

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Thank you very much...
i´m looking forward for the book.

I guess the greatcoat is not really often to find because they were continued to be used after the war.
Now i´m considering: Gebietsdreieck ( triangle) and shoulderstraps yes or no ?
 
That's up too you. If you are able to postion correctly shoulder-straps
I would do so. Lighter brown are the best, eventually with a number
lowet then 300. If you plam also the triangle, see to it the number for
the shoulder-straps matches the districts-triangle.
 
I think this should be no Problem.
i am a little talent with the needle.

so i have to lookout for some shoulderstraps and the matches district-triangle.

here some example from my work.
i use only original yarn. have some rolls from a master tailor.

i also repair loops for Awards on fieldjackets.
the cap was badly damaged when i got.

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