It's good to see a dealer at least asking for opinions before selling but why doesn't he show a little respect and post the items himself and also let the members know that it is him? I can hardly believe, like Garry says, that this guy isn't a member of any forums but still sells militaria. Doesnt make sense and perhaps that's why nobody is replying on this thread?? He hasn't even supplied good photos of the items. Anyway..I don't know anything about the first item but the kletterjacke without collar is dodgy in my opoinion. The armband suggests that the jacket was worn by a male but these were only worn early in the period by males and I have never seen a pic of a HJ wearing one without a collar. The armband at that time was normally worn loose around the arm and not stitched like this one. You can see that in countless photos. I also don't like seeing badges because it smacks too much of the seller trying to give the illusion that everything is definitely "old" and "original". In my opinion this is a standard kletterjacke that had the collar removed for post-war civilian use and that was eventually humped up through the addition of the badge and armband.