Are these genuine Hitler Youth buttons or perhaps Bundeswehr?

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Hi all,
I would like to have your opinion about these buttons, it's the first time I saw them, they look like genuine ww2 hj buttons but no backmarks (rzm...) and poor quality.
I didn't know they were used in the bundeswehr, even the music units (S)!!!
It's very strange, isn't it? What is your opinion please?
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Hi,

I have no experience with buttons so hopefully others will jump in here. This type is described as grey in the regulations and on the pictures they don't look at all shiny when compared to yours. The lack of any RZM M5 marks will, I suspect, make these buttons unattractive to HJ collectors looking to add to a uniform display though.

I don't know if the BW use these.
 
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