Are these swallows' nests (Schwalbennester) from the Hitler Youth or Deutsches Jungvolk?

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please tell me this Schwalbennest to organize hj thank you

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Hi Ruslan,

Here are some threads that should be of assistance: schwalbennest - Hitler Youth Militaria Collector Forum.
You can also search the forum for Schwalbennest or Swallows Nest

As Darin says, these should have a brown backing material if for HJ/DJ. Here is an example of a thread discussing the type of swallows' nests you show in your second post: http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f16/hj-dj-swallows-nests-schwalbennester-8317/

In the early period (before standardisation), some oddities can be observed in photographs but the decision on whether to buy items like the ones you show in post #1 is a personal one. The safer option is to go for a version shown in the primary literature.
 
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