Blank Deutsches Jungvolk and Hitler Youth shoulder straps

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I've read that DJ straps have been sometimes purchased in RZM stores without Jungbann numbers. They were cheaper and number was embroidered after by family.
Someone have ever seen a blank DJ shoulder strap in a collection ?

Lauri
 
I havent found it yet , but I do have one .
I will post it when it surfaces .
 
Blank DJ

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To continue with the blank tabs, here's two set (pre 38 general HJ and post 38 Streifendienst (not sure, construction is not common). What's your feeling about it ?

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The single DJ and red piped General HJ look good to me. They are possibly unfinished examples. The Streifendienst set looks very odd, back side appears to be like Heer straps. Never seen this type before.

I've seen a photo of NPEA students wearing plain, not numbered, shoulder straps. The photo was clear enough that any numbers or devices would have been seen.

Later wartime straps also came without numbers and were meant to have metal numerals attached.

Interesting insignia Lauri.
 
Thanks for the comments Darin. You're right the lining of the Streifendienst is very similar to the Heer straps :h
I retrieved this photo of a NPEA student in a period book translated in french. Indeed he is wearing plain straps, with a light piping.

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Hello,

Never heard that story of cheaper straps ! That would means cheaper than RZM "cheap" regulations (?!)

If I remember well, the blank staps are to be used by the "Reichsdeutsche Jugend Ausland" (youth who are german citizens by who lives out of Germany) and later also by the "Deutsche Jugend" (youth who are ethnic germans, who lives out of Germany but who are not german citizens).

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I have a photo of a DJ leader with white lanyard and blank tabs in my collection.

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DEBERTEX said:
Hello,

Never heard that story of cheaper straps ! That would means cheaper than RZM "cheap" regulations (?!)

If I remember well, the blank staps are to be used by the "Reichsdeutsche Jugend Ausland" (youth who are german citizens by who lives out of Germany) and later also by the "Deutsche Jugend" (youth who are ethnic germans, who lives out of Germany but who are not german citizens).

Best regards
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Hello
Thanks for your comment.
I've read that in the last days RZM offices controlled leaders straps only so why not ?
 
Saris has also told me that blank straps were used in the last part of the war. They were meant for metal numbers to be attached. Saris is also the one who spoke of the photos of NPEA without letters on the shoudler straps. He further stated that RZM regulations were to be followed for manufacturing the blank straps, but in the last days this was not always enforced. Also made for the Ausland Jugend organsiations as stated by Debertex.
 
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Just to add a little more: just reading a regulation here which, although it doesn't mention the DJ straps specifically, states that HJ shoulder straps were available without the Bann number. This is contained in a section dealing specifically with the standard HJ uniform for the HJ inside the Reich. This regulation is undated but can be no older than 1942.
 
Mystery is solved. Not very common to see but I have a set of post 38 blank HJ straps piped in red. As I recall Paul70 also showed one from his collection on the old forum.
 
It goes on to say that blank straps were available for all of the specialist arms - Flieger-HJ etc and also for Landjahr and NPEA.

Edit: I mean blank straps but with the appropriate coloured cords (Kordel) of course. As Darin says these are rare which could well mean that the Bann/Jungbann numbers were indeed sewn by mothers or in tailors' shops later and that such straps are seen as fakes today because they look 'dodgy'.
 
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