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  1. #31
    have we not seen pics of the district triangles associated with schools early on. I think the
    NPEA
    triangles are a later thing maybe post 36 ?

    Weinand does not seem to appear here anymore

  2. #32
    The Verordnungsblatt of April 30th 1937 states that the
    NPEA
    triangle was ordered to be worn by all students, teachers, and instructors. The straps were changed to black in September 1938. Being an elite HJ organisation I would think the
    NPEA
    would fall in line rather quickly with regulations, faster than a smaller Banns without so much notoriety. Saris cites the "Uniformen-Markt., Number 5, from March 1st 1940 as the source of the information on this cord that the book contains. A fascinating and at the same time confusing strap to me for sure Paul. Hopefully more research will nail this down solid as to what it is.

  3. #33
    okay so 1937 as a date of implantation sounds good and I agree the schools would quickly fall in line, but this shoulder is black so conforms to the later period and out the door with my theory. Anyhow sent a note to Weinand see if he shows up.

    great thread

  4. #34
    Well, whatever it turns out to be I love this strap. Great pick up Paul, you scored well.

  5. #35
    WILL GET SOME BETTER PICS FOR THE ARTICLE WHEN THE STUFF ARRIVES

    Paul

  6. #36
    THIS IS WHAT THE VENDOR says he is French from the area and seems knowledgeable

    Hy Paul, Thank you for your comprehension.


    Yes the colors of the Gau Baden are red and yellow,
    even today, this is its blazon.


    The only
    NPEA
    of this Gau was in Rouffach, now located in Alsace/France

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAUL AYERST View Post
    THIS IS WHAT THE VENDOR says he is French from the area and seems knowledgeable

    Hy Paul, Thank you for your comprehension.


    Yes the colors of the Gau Baden are red and yellow,
    even today, this is its blazon.

    The only
    NPEA
    of this Gau was in Rouffach, now located in Alsace/France
    Hi Paul,
    there was a confusion with my explanation of yesterday evening.
    The regional colors ( Landesfarben ) of the district Baden are well red and yellow but they have nothing to do with the twisted cord concerning
    NPEA
    shoulder straps.
    It is the rank of Gruppenführer and not the location.......!.It is for that reason that W.Saris is completely right.
    The triangle which must be worn with your strap is the one of the
    NPEA
    Rufach or another school !.
    I am very amazed that a french vendor was able to say such a stupidity .( I know him because it was in his collection in Strasbourg..... )
    Nothing more surprise me now.
    Best regards
    Last edited by WIDUKIND; 25th January 2010 at 09:17 PM.

  8. #38
    OKAY the mud is starting to get clearer thanks for the reply

    still can not figure out the need for the two rank structures then shown on the strap
    Last edited by Paul Ayerst; 25th January 2010 at 10:46 PM.

  9. #39

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    As regards both structures, there are no things to be understood because it is an
    NPEA
    specificity.......

  10. #40
    BUT BUT BUT , i MUST UNDERSTAND

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