Reiter-HJ

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A new thread about this specialist insignia. Please post here all informations concerning it, maybe is possible to know more about this uncommon patch ?

From Ebay, DJ leader with the Reiter-HJ arm patch (note the Y straps) :

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An old sale, Ärmelabzeichen für Angehörige der Reiter-HJ :

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From a private collection :

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Indeed a scarce patch and one on my hit list. Bob Coleman owns a uniform from the Rieter HJ that he has posted on other forums. It has an odd shoulder strap combination I've not seen anywhere else, red numerals with yellow piping. There is one on MIL 321 right now that appears to be a fake to me.
 
There is one on MIL 321 right now that appears to be a fake to me.

Not sure at 100% but not a good deal for me too :

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If you notice in the photo of the Jungvolk leader wearing the Reiter sleeve insignia....the lances are black and the flag pennants are white , where as the patch on Mil 321 ....the lances are white and the flag pennants are black .
The photograph matches the insignias in the members collections , but the one for sell does not .
 
If you notice in the photo of the Jungvolk leader wearing the Reiter sleeve insignia....the lances are black and the flag pennants are white , where as the patch on Mil 321 ....the lances are white and the flag pennants are black .
The photograph matches the insignias in the members collections , but the one for sell does not .

That's what I noticed as well Joe. Do you have one of these insignia in your stuff?
 
If you go by the 1933 book 'Die Uniformen der HJ' and the 1938 and 1943 editions of the 'Organisationsbuch der NSDAP' then it would seem to be the case that these patches always had white flags.

I noticed a difference between the earlier and later flags in that the later patches had curved flags like those on the photo in post 1. The early flags have an extended straight edge before curving down. The early patches measure 5.8cm (height) by 4cm. The RZM regs for 1936 don't list this patch and the Reiter-HJ was disbanded in that year.

Edit: more info from the regulations is HERE (page 4, post 32)
 
From the OB and a booklet (noticed the term Prüfungsabzeichen) :

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Well i think that makes sense that it is a prufungsabzeichen as they had to take a exame to qualify for the patch,at least that makes sense to me.a scarce piece of insignia
 
From Weitze, it has just been sold. Seems ok for me.
I try to find one in better shape in the coming years :hail:

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I have the opportunity to obtain this insignia. The obverse is not like the regulation said and it very bad shape but something tell me it's a period item, maybe i'm wrong ? Opinions are welcome !

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This example would be a good one also.

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Here is another. Just sold on Ebay DE.

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Verdamnt , how did I miss this one . I think I need thearpy now !
 
It was up for 10 days. I sniped it and won the patch. I've been looking for one of these for some time now. Better photos when it arrives safely. :001_cool:
 
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