Cufftitle identification help needed - Ordensburgen and LS Warndienst

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Ordensburgen (leadership school)? and LS Warndienst (air raid) ?

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You are correct Brad. I don't know if they are original or not from the photos as I'm not good with cuff titles, but you've identified them for what they represent.
 
There is controversy with the black Ordensburg cufftitles .
I would stay away from them and save my money for a brown backed one .
 
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