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How many known makers were there of the first pattern HJ membership badge? According to an announcement at the end of December 1931(1), the only maker allowed to make and mark them was Otto Baudermann, although surely the supply and demand was too much for one single maker before and after this date. Even through into the RZM period after these badges were replaced, they were still allowed to be made(2), but seem to die out into 1935, as no genuine badges are known that have the prefix M1/

It is not going to help us by listing 100 different GES.GESCH marked badges, or by showing multiple unmarked examples, they could have been made by anybody. The aim is to get a list together of the known makers of the first pattern HJ badge. If you have them, post them, or if you know of older posts then pls link them here.
(1) Verordnungsblatt 7 Dez 1931 Büchner
(2) RZMMtbl. ausgabe 18 June 1935

Pre-RZM makers known so far:

  1. Otto Baudermann
  2. Assmann und Söhne
  3. Boerger & Co.
  4. Karl Hensler
  5. Raymond & Nichols (Link)
  6. Rudolf Schanes (Austrian - produced prior to mid-1933)
  7. Feger (Austrian - produced prior to mid-1933)
  8. Unmarked (Link)
  9. Marked only GES.GESCH.
Post-RZM makers known so far:

  1. RZM 11
  2. RZM 15
  3. RZM N° 34
  4. RZM 39 - Robert Beck
  5. RZM 72 - Fritz Zimmermann
  6. RZM 75 - Otto Schickle
Known Reproductions so far:

  1. Alfred Stübbe
  2. RZM - GES.GESCH (Also known with white enamel)
  3. Zinc version/painted unmarked
  4. Zinc version/painted marked RZM M1/63
  5. REDO
  6. M1/4
  7. No Markings on reverse - perfect cnc-machined design

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The "19" Sun ray myth
The amount of sun rays depicted on a badge is immaterial. Collectors have somehow been led to believe that these badges must have exactly 19 sun rays in order to be authentic.​
Period documentation as well as period images prove this incorrect. Examples of period badges show 15 - 19 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 23 - 24 sun rays. It would be true to say that the first maker of these, Baudermann, indeed used 19 sun rays on his badges, but the many makers that followed did not stick to this as a rule of thumb. It is also not possible to separate them into groups of badges produced before RZM control or after, judging only the sun rays, as there are many examples of RZM-transitional-era badges produced with more than 19 sun rays.​
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The "Hyphen" myth
Whether there is a hyphen between ARBEITER and JUGEND or not, is immaterial, and has no bearing on a badges authenticity. A hyphen, as well as no hyphen can be observed on period badges as well as fakes.​
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Liliput Versions
Smaller, 17 mm so-called Liliput versions are also known of this badge, but to date we have only observed the same design on the few liliput versions shown on this forum, pointing to only one period maker of the smaller version, and possibly not for that long either. All smaller versions of official badges like this/these, were forbidden by the RZM in 1935.​
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Pre-1933 Hitlerjugend Membership ID
Hard to encounter, the early version of the Hitler Youth membership ID. The version above is dated 1931. (Credit)​

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More fully marked badges:
Assmann & Söhne

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Becco

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Rudolf Schanes

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RZM 15

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RZM 39

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rzm 72

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rzm 75

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REPRODUCTIONS - BEWARE!

NO MARKINGS - PERFECT CNC-MILLED OBVERSE DESIGN


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NO MARKINGS - PERFECT MODERN CNC-MILLED OBVERSE DESIGN (DIFFERENT MORE MODERN VERSION TO ABOVE)


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RZM - GES.GESCH


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RZM - GES.GESCH (as above, with white enamel)


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Alfred Stübbe.

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Zinc version

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REDO

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RZM M1/4 GES.GESCH.

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Another Assmann produced badge, same as in post 2, just in much better condition :swiss
A very hard makers name to find on these.

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An Austrian version by FEGER in Kufstein, from a recent auction sale

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Just spotted this online, a maker we dont have yet on the main thread. What a nice transitional period badge :) with 20 sun rays! :001_rolleyes:

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Just spotted this online, a maker we dont have yet on the main thread. What a nice transitional period badge :) with 20 sun rays! :001_rolleyes:

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Wow, never saw this one before.


Regards, Wim
 
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jp mil itaria
 

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Found another for sale that we dont have yet. RZM 11, with 23 sun rays.:good:
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21 sun rays :swiss

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I wonder what the experts are learning as they read through their favorite forums?
Amazing that Müll like this still shifts hands as genuine. €80.- for this? Well, should have joined the HJ forum for a lot less and saved - and learned :swiss

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Great stuff. Many thamnks for this info (and on the other badges)!
 
Adding one we don`t have on this forum yet, a Karl Hensler, with "tits about face letter S in the makers name, so it reads HENZLER"
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Thanks for the update Jo. Nice looking badge that one.
 
Unmarked HJ Arbeiter Jugend ( no hyphen )
Pin plate marked Ges Gesch ..:canada1

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I have just seen this at Weitze - but I can't exactly pinpoint who the manufacturer is, maybe someone else (Jo) can ??

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Michael :denmark
 

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