Thanks for the interesting discussion, gentlemen.
Best regards,
Oleg.
Best regards,
Oleg.
I couldn't resisthow do you put your name at the bottom of the page with the tick that says like this.Regards Pete
It`s a good question, and the only way to answer it would be to look at all the small badges produced in Germany and the annexted terr. from mid 1942 onwards. We see a change to lesser quality metals with small badges anyway before zinc, around 1939-1940. Also taking non-official badges into consideration. Then you can clearly see the change, which also applied to official badges. You can even go one step further and break down the zinc years in early, mid and late as well.. it`s actually a subject on it`s own, that i (think and hope) have addressed well in my book.what is he general thought on painted badges then, most people see them as late war but are they that or just variations used by different makers
Yes, documented quite well in the UM, but pertaining to the LDO and to Awards not badges. The various meetings that took place of Big Wigs incl. a rep. from the RZM to discuss exactly this. (dont loose sight of the fact that these membership badges were trivialities back then, 25 and 35 CENT items. Not prestigeous Decoractions meant to be worn and kept forever )but have never seen any proof of this is there any period paperwork that states that lesser materials should be used on badges and other items due to wartime shortages.
Well i dont know where it comes from, or if it`s even a theory, but when you look at the small badges evolution from 1920 to 1933, then from 1933 to 1935 and from 1935 to 1939, (all small badges) then the change is clear, although not documented that from xx only zinc must be used. This would have depended on area, how many badges a maker produced, how much material he had... This is why, if you did what i said on the above post, but also considered Austrian badges as well into that time frame, then it becomes clear that a change to zinc did not happen overnight across the board, but slowly, with the Austrian makers being the last to use zinc for "everything" as some German manufacturers were a few years before.the late war theory on these badges has always been based on the fact that germany was losing the war materials where getting hard to come by so they must have used lesser quality materials to make badges
Michael Tucker claims this too in his book, that Zinc membership badges were offered together with messing, BEFORE the war. It is nonsense at it`s best, and not supported by anything, (as everything he wrote was[not]) in fact once you examine the change, and consider period documentation, it`s the exact opposite.if a maker was out of the standard material but had zinc available was there anything stopping him using that instead because if there isnt these painted badges could be from any period
Hi Pete. Cheers, Yes, not maybe, not perhaps, but most certainly!By the sounds of it this book is going to knock the spots off all that have been before.