Reichsbanner badge very similar design to HJ Arbeiterjugend badge

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saw this Reichsbanner badge on a website and even though i know its not a youth pin i thought the similarities with the first pattern HJ membership badge made it worth showing, i wonder if this is where they got the original design for the early badges as this is apparently a very early german political movement

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Either this badge was copied in part from the HJ 1st pattern badge or vice versa :confused:
 
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