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    Some HJ achievement badges for review

    Ok, I have 3 here that i need confirming or denying :)

    One I know is fake ( but i want someone else to say it) the other 2 I think are fine. It would have cost me a lot of money if you tell me they're all fake

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    hi john

    the bronze and silver look great especially the silver:drool:, as for the blackish one its a weird one it does not look like a cast copy but the badge itself is definetly not textbook and that badge set up is iffy to say the best, i personally would pass on that one

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    Well i ain't that bad then coz thats exactly what i said :)

    cheers Stu

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    that bronze is nice :001_wub:

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    THE BLACKISH one is a dud easy to tell with that thin clip devise as seen on the various fake pocket badge . I think called a post war souval

    PAUL

  6. #6

    Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by John Brandon View Post
    Well i ain't that bad then coz thats exactly what i said :)

    cheers Stu
    Gone from being a fake, to a genuine TR period item removed from a Steinhauer & Lück Salesmans card ???
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    HJ SPORTABZEICHEN IM BRONZE Un-maker marked mint HJ sports badge in bronze.Although this badge is not numbered as they usually are. This is a genuine TR period badge. It was removed from a Steinhauer & Lück, of Lüdenscheid's salesmans board. Hence the lack of numbers to the rear! Reasonably priced £65.-

    Link / Website, badge is on page 13.

    This is also, anything but MINT ? what makes this worse, is that it has not changed hands and now popped up again being sold by someone else, it`s being sold by the same person who posted it here 2 years ago on his website...... the same person who agreed it was fake. A typical example of what direction the hobby is going today...

    The silver M1/63 badge above is one i would stay away from. Here is one that was up for auction as 100% Original, including a photo of the wearer. The photos have lots of glare on, and when i have time i will take photos of the fakes i have, and upload better photos of them, so you will be able to see the differences. The Double "11". in the six digit number is something to watch out for. There are series of the same numbers over and over, all showing either the exact same number, or slightly changed, but always with -11- in there somewhere.
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    Last edited by Jo Rivett; 7th September 2011 at 12:01 AM. Reason: pictures added

  7. #7
    That totally sucks.... Taken off a salesman's card my ar*e...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry View Post
    That totally sucks.... Taken off a salesman's card my ar*e...
    Well, i guess this guy has taken a leaf outta the "big boys" books, ie: as long as there is a Story behind the item, it`s OK to sell as Genuine. Contrary to what ppl may think, i dont actually police the net looking for crime and corruption, i stumbled across this when i read the "Dealer to recommend post" had a brief look and saw it, knew that i had seen it before, and wondered how it went from Bad to "removed from a period S & L salesmans board"
    There might actually be a good explanation for this ?? , so maybe the poster/seller would like to add something?

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    Dont trust the double 1

    Continuing from post N°6. I cant say for sure that the Silver badge posted in post N°1 is a fake or real, but then again, neither can you
    And i`ll bet you that after i have buffed these fakes up with a dremel and polishing pad, taken the sharp corners off and added heavy wear, added some rim dings, dropped them a few timers, and buried them for a few months, i could list them on the net as Ground dug and they would find a new home.
    Weight and dimensions are identical with originals.
    *Note: The silver one here is not the same one as i pictured above in the recent auction, i did not buy that one, i bought a set of three Repros to examine them, and then bury them

    Silver version...
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    Black version and Bronze version below.

    btw, i paid €40.- for the set of three fakes. in 12 months, after i have dug them up, i will list them for sale on some obscure auction site at €40.- each and we`ll see what happens.
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