I will try to post pictures later . Found a HJ with motto on the blade , other side of blade has the round circle with RZM and under it the Schuttelhofer RZM number M 7/13. Then next to it A. Schuttelhofer & Co lengthwise on the blade. I have looked and cannot find another like this online. The scabbard does not have a lip. It looks authentic. But I have read where all HJ's with motto never had a RZM mark with number on the blade. Has anyone ever seen a Schuttlehofer & Co HJ with motto and RZM number and name on the blade lengthwise before ? Thanks , Ratler