Award documents for the "Winterkampfspiele der Hitlerjugend"

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Gents,

I have got these two documents recently and thought being worth to ask how common they are. Both are about 35 x 26 cm in size. The winner doc has a hardcover around the doc itself (a bit like a Kn/Cross award doc :) ) and the document is made from almost precious deckle edged paper (at least this is what my translation program spits out for "Büttenpapier"). I'm nearly sure the Lauterbacher signature is not printed but handsigned.
The doc for the third place is signed by Axmann. However, I suspect this being a printed autograph.
"Kunstlauf" and "Eiskunstlauf" are, btw, figure skating.

Can anyone give me an price evaluation for both? I'm interested in HJ documents but never came across one of these. Any comments welcome.

Rgds and thx in advance

Daniel

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