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    Brown leather carrying straps (harness) DRGM

    Hello,

    I hope someone is able to help me out. I was send photos from brown
    leatherwork, which was said to be
    HY
    . But for what was it used when it
    indeed was for the
    HY
    . I have my thoughts after intensive research,
    but is there someone who can tell me more! Maybe Lauri???
    Here some photos:

    HJ Y riem 1.jpg HJ Y riem 3.jpg HJ Y riem 4.jpg

    I really appreciate your cooperation.......


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    It's just a guess but the straps in the centre of the back appear to be for holding something round so I would think that this equipment was designed to carry a firefighter's compressed air bottle as part of a Sauerstoffschutzgerät.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry View Post
    It's just a guess but the straps in the centre of the back appear to be for holding something round so I would think that this equipment was designed to carry a firefighter's compressed air bottle as part of a Sauerstoffschutzgerät.

    In brown leather for firefighter's?? It is anyway
    DRGM
    stamped and does not have
    RZM
    indications.
    Bertl59 told me it was named as Sturmgepäck, so a sort of Tragegerüst. A carrying leather for
    the back-pack? He could be right, but what has to come on top?

    I thought it could be the leather for a Rückentragbahre, but then the sack/bag to hold the litter, is missing?
    I do not have a drawing for the HJ, but for the
    NSKK
    it was in a regulation (see image).

    img712 - kopie.jpg img713.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilhelm saris View Post
    In brown leather for firefighter's?? It is
    DRGM
    stamped and has not an
    RZM
    indication.
    Bertl59 told me it was named as Sturmgepäck, so a sort of Tragegerüst. Carrying
    leather for the back-pack?

    I thought it could be the leather for a Rücktragbahre, but then the sack/bag is missing?
    Hi Wim,

    No, I'm not thinking of the HJ-Feuerwehrscharen. It's just that the two horizontal straps on the rear look like they were used to secure something that was cylindrical in shape and I guessed at a compressed air bottle. I looked at some pics of Sturmgepäck straps and although they were not an exact match for yours Bertl could well be right.

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    I am getting many suggestions, but no final solution yet.
    Bertl59 could be right, as I said, but what is the purpose for the
    two leather straps, fastened though the middle leather part??
    Here the plate in color:

    img714.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilhelm saris View Post
    but what is the purpose for the
    two leather straps, fastened though the middle leather part??
    Possibly for the canteen (Essgeschirr) if the backpack is not attached?

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    Maybe after all the leatherwork is the first form of Sturmgepäck-Tragegerüst,
    and especially for the
    NSKK
    . In the manufacturing-regulations from the
    RZM

    from 1936 such equipment was mentioned, but has another look (a new form).
    And indeed to the new form also the canteen and other things were fastened
    by all kind of leather belts.

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    I haven't gotten any 100% solution for what it is.
    Apparently nobody has an image from a regulation where such leather
    was in use. Not a photo where we positively can say: yes, this is it!

    I checked "Handbuch für die Hitler-Jugend", part 1 (I do not have part 2).
    In this they point into
    SA
    regulations, which I checked. Nothing in there
    either!
    In the "Handbuch der
    SA
    " they mention a Tragegerüst mit Halteriemen
    in accordance to the Tornister (back-pack). Maybe this Tragegerüst is what
    is shown. In the handbook from 1939 there is no drawing. The shown leather
    anyway is early.
    Last edited by wilhelm saris; 20th June 2017 at 05:43 PM.

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