HJ FLAG Gefolgschaftsfahne with very high number 67/173

[Joe B]

I have seen problibly 20 Gefolgschaftsfahne in my years of collecting but never seen one with so high of company number . The city of Essen from the area of West/Ruhr-Niederrhein must have had a large population to rate so many Hj Gefolgschafts .

This flag is on a dealers site , however ; he wants 1700 euro .... way to much for this flag .

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[Garry]

Good find Joe. I'll add this one to the flag list in a moment. Yes, large population in Essen back then (fourth largest city in Germany today). In 1939 Essen had a population of 664,523.

As you say, and as the flag lists currently show, only a tiny number of these flags seem to have survived - certainly in private collections anyway so let's add these whenever we find them.

 

[Joe B]

I would assume that the shoulderstrap buttons worn on the shirts/blouses in this Gefolgschaft would have been #67 also . If so then this is proof that higher numbered buttons were indeed worn . Personally I have never seen an original HJ shirt/blouse with shoulderstrap numbers higher than #42 .
I am curios what city rated the highest number in Gefolgschafts .
It would be nice to document each Bann and how many Gefolgschafts were within each Bann .

 

[Garry]

It would be nice to document each Bann and how many Gefolgschafts were within that Bann .

Indeed Joe, that's what I'm trying to achieve with this: http://www.hj-research.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=List_of_Units_below_Bann_Reichsbann

As far as the Gefolgschaft/Fähnlein buttons go, yes, they can be shown to have been that high. On the wiki page at the link there is a Fähnlein 84 in Jungbann 74 for example.

 

[bertl59]

Hello,
i have look in my buttons box today and found a pair of 60 (from RZM of course)

 

[wilhelm saris]

If a smaller town like Plauen did have a Gefolgschaft 36 in 1942, why then a city like Essen
would not have had so many. Consult my Handbook about how the units were listed. My
information was taken from the original Organisations-Plan, combined in Plauen-Stadt and
Plauen-Land.

 

[crack]

If a smaller town like Plauen did have a Gefolgschaft 36 in 1942, why then a city like Essen
would not have had so many. Consult my Handbook about how the units were listed. My
information was taken from the original Organisations-Plan, combined in Plauen-Stadt and
Plauen-Land.

Of course they did. Hannover had a Fähnlein 84 (see post 4 above). Pretty sure I've seen even higher than that on the forum. Will have to check.