Jugend Ehrendienst sleeve triangle insignia.

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I posted this on the old forum but nobody really knew what it was. With some new people here maybe someone has seen one of these before? I got this from an estate sale of an olympic wieghtlifter that participated in the Berlin games for about 20 USD a couple of years ago. It passes a burn test and does not glow, but I just don't know what it's for or if it's even TR period. The HJ triangle is just for size comparrison. Anybody ever seen one of these??:confused:

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I saw this it was from an auction but no picture.

(Brochure) Erinnerungen an den Jugend-Ehrendienst. Memories of the Youth Honorary Service. Berlin, 1937. 48pp. illus., 15.2x22.6cm (6"x8.9"), in German language. Stories of the young boys who served as honorary service during the Olympic Games.

Was this a possible patch that was given for what is described as honorary service?
 
Bobby, I think that there's also a book by Werner Klingberg or someone like him about what you are referencing. I've been looking for it for a while now to try and find a period photo or something. The uniforms for the Jugend-Ehrendienst were white with a BDM style jacket from the sort of blurry photos I've seen, but I really couldn't see any sort of insignia. :confused1:
 
I don't think it's a sleeve triangle but maybe some other type of chest insignia or something. It was only 20 usd, so even if not T.R. period it should at least be worth something to an Olympics collector. I just wish I knew exactly what it is. :confused:
 
Well some more information has surfaced on this one. I sent the patch to Clyde Davis for a good hands on. He contacted a friend who is currently working on a two volume book dealing with sports in the third reich who stated this is most definetly a period item and was indeed used during the 1936 games. According to the information I've recieved this was worn by both girls and boys (most likely HJ and BDM members but not confirmed) that served as helpers and assistants at the games, running errands, escorting athaletes, etc. The youths wore white unforms and this patch was worn on the upper left sleeve of the uniform. I've been told there are more photos and video of this patch in wear but here is one, unfortunately not really clear but if you compare the size of the patch to the standard HJ triangle it looks correct in scale. I'll post the others when I have more information. Looks like this was a good 20 USD gamble after all.

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there was allot of odd insignia for this event one being cuff titles for linguists denoted the language they could speak ie ENGLISH. WELL done DARRIN super pic

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Well done Darin. 20US well spent :) Here's that book you mentioned if you're still after a copy.

The patch only seems to have been worn by certain members of the Ehrendienst as evidenced by the attached picture and it would be good to find out what the criteria were. The boys wearing the patch in the clips are clearly younger than the two shown on the picture so perhaps only the younger boys wore them i.e. only the Hitler Youth? Something for another day perhaps but congrats on finding the patch :thumb:

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Thanks for the link Garry. I am unsure of the specific criteria for the wearing of the triangle. I've been told they were all volunteers. I understand that members from many organisations were called to serve at the games and the Ehrendienst including members of the RAD as well as HJ/BDM members along with various other state organisations.

They all wore the white uniforms and olympic rings on the caps. There seems to be no real standard for wearing of the rings on the caps, some photos show them on the right and others on the left side. Various armbands were worn as well. Some with national flag colors, some with olympic rings also.

Perhaps the young men in the postcard photo are from the RAD or another organisation for adults.

While I don't think the triangle is specifically HJ related it is an interesting and probably scarce item of insignia worn by German youth during the period.
 
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A copy of a really crisp photo that shows the uniform of the Jugend Ehrendienst. The detail is very nice and the uniform is really striking. This patch and the photos will be shown in a new 2 volume book from Bender Publishing on the subject of sports during the Third Riech.

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More period photos of Ehrendienst members. Some appear to be wearing a cuff title or sleeve stripe of some kind. There is also a photo of the female members in uniform.

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Following is for sale, for the interested :)
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A fantastic photo. I remember many questioned this triangle when I first obtained it as it was not well known. Even the great Helmut Weitze told me "fake"! The author and researcher on sports in the third reich, Rob Newbrough was finally able to provide me with footage of the insignia in wear. He's a great guy and I am grateful for his help. I have since sold this on as I don't collect triangles and needed the funds for an Oberbannführer strap. It now resides in a large collection in the U.S. after being sold on two more times.
 
with all the period evidence now confirmed here we can all put this on our radar but knowing it was not issued in quantity will be a hard one :canada1 Adding this to the triangles article
 
And a cap :swiss
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