1936 Berufswettkampf participant/officials badge

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The posts in this thread were originally part of this discussion: http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f56/reichskampf-1938-hamburg-reichsberufswettkampf-20/

It developed into a discussion which also included the 1936 badge so I thought I'd put that part of the discussion here in order to enable it to be found easier by anyone looking for it on a search.



It's odd that there would appear to be no badges from the 1936 Reich finals which have survived. 1944 was different to the previous years in that no centralised Reich final competition was held so that explains the lack of a badge for that year but 1936 is an odd one. Why make a badge for every other year but not for 1936? Doesn't make sense.

I have a photo here from Artur Axmann's 1938 book 'Der Reichsberufswettkampf' showing a girl wearing the pre-1938 pattern Reichssieger badge. As you can see, she is also wearing another badge. Could this be the mysterious 1936 participants'/officials' badge? Does anyone recognise it?

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hi gar
would love to find a better pic of one of those badges, dont you think if it was a 36 participents bdage there would be more evidence of it, but will def keep a look out for this type of badge and see what it is ???.
thanks for the input on the pic gar
 
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Very true Stu. This is a mystery which is just dying to be solved .)
 
Solved! Just waiting for permission to show the pictures. Sorry Stu but it's time to go searching again :) This one will be hard to find though I think.
 
Okay, permission granted. This is the badge for the finals in 1936. It is the same badge as worn by the girl above as I was hoping :)

The pictures are shown with the permission of Helmut Weitze who recently sold this badge.

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so there is another badge to go with the set ; bloody great lol, nice work gar to be honest this one seems to be more in the vein of the 34,35 badges, when the 38 games came around they must have put much more in to them with the participent badges and the winners badges.
still dont understand why the 34,35 are so easy to find but this badge is so scarce
stu
 
:) Perhaps it was the construction Stu. That plastic backing or even the pin would probably have broken quite easily I imagine and the owners may just have chucked the rest when that happened.
 
oh well gives me something to look out for , how much did weitze sell it for gar any ideas
stu
 
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Hi yes this 36 badge is realy interesting is ther any one that have any info about this one regards tomas
 
This is great detective work like finding a new species, if i ever find one
i,ll name it after you! Strange though that none have appeared before,
there must have been quite a few awarded. Unless this was for the top
few winners and only a small number were given out.
Regards
Mametz
 
These badges were presented to those who had made it to the finals of the 1936 competition mametz and were also worn by the competition staff so for 1936 this meant 671 badges for the finalists plus an unknown number for the officials.

If we jump ahead one year to the 1937 finals in Munich the number of badges awarded shoots to a minimum of 3000 for the finalists plus an unknown number for officials. The badge was of solid construction and presented in larger numbers which obviously allowed a greater chance for more of the badges to survive and to be around today than would have been the case for the 1936. Just a theory but it works for me.
 
Interesting but i don,t subsribe to the fragile constrution theory, there are
plenty of stickpin badges that survive. I have never seen this badge in any
book or on the net, But we live and learn, and must keep an open mind.
Regards
John
 
It was the plastic backing plate I was talking about mainly as a possible reason for these badges not surviving. Look at the picture and you can see what is likely to have happened to a lot of the badges - cracks radiating from the stickpin hole. Plastic breaks - badge no longer complete - owner chucks it in the bin.
 
the fact is the badge is def a period badge as you can see in the pic garry provided, i think this has slipped by a lot of books as have a lot of the rarer hj badges, and any one who has come across this probably has it down as a tinnie due to the design and quality
 
Hi gents,

here a pics from my piece, hope it helps.

This one i have bought today with some other pins and tinnies,

a collector friend of me bought it about 25 years ago from the vets family.

If there is a need for better pics, i will do some closeups

BR Ww




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Wow , that is a great looking badge , thank you for posting .
 
Here the next one to compare....(thanks to greifvogel for the right to show this pic here.)






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