ANOTHER ITEM FOR REVIEW FROM A DEALER BEFORE LISTING LOOKS GOOD BUT AM CONCERNED WITH THE CLOTH DIAMOND INSIGNIA ON THIS LEVEL OF CAP THANKS FOR OPINIONS 
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Hj hat (Jugendmütze) with cloth diamond for review
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so must assume there are no questions on this cap ? Want to be sure before it is listed to the public.
Hi Paul,
a similar HJ cap was sold at Kai Winkler a few years ago, I do not know what to think about this HJ Cloth diamond.
Little information about this one....
greetings so you think the cap is good but the diamond is questionable as thought ?
Check pics there is a label Paul
okay interesting and you are correct thanks for that observation PAUL
Look at what Böhme & Steinbach were making in Gera in 1939:
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Fire and air defence equipment. From "HJ" hats to hoses? Seems unlikely...
As Falco and Eric mentioned, the label "Jugendmütze" would be correct on a HJ summer cap.
What's going on with that lower red cord?
The cloth diamond was introduced in 1940 for the summer cap only.
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Fire and air defence equipment. From "HJ" hats to hoses? Seems unlikely...
As Falco and Eric mentioned, the label "Jugendmütze" would be correct on a HJ summer cap.
What's going on with that lower red cord?
The cloth diamond was introduced in 1940 for the summer cap only.
GREAT INPUT GENTLEMEN INFO HAS BEEN PASSED ON TO THE VENDOR
THIS and the white cap have both been posted to the fake data base thanks for the input guys.
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According to the 1936 manufacturing-regulations from the RZM
a brown tag is correct for a HJ-Dienstmütze up to and including
Unterbannführer. The word Jugendmütze is correct for that!
The lower red piping might be a mistake from the manufacturer.
What the stamp Böhme & Steinbach Gera means is a question.
Amongst the about 1,500 official RZM manufacturers of headgear
not such name was listed. Not given a permission, nor found as
revoked. And normally no cloth diamond was to be worn with a
orm of headgear like this!
In some ways the cap is anyway questionable!
(for crack) and NO, there was no NSDAP organization that did use
a cap like this.
a brown tag is correct for a HJ-Dienstmütze up to and including
Unterbannführer. The word Jugendmütze is correct for that!
The lower red piping might be a mistake from the manufacturer.
What the stamp Böhme & Steinbach Gera means is a question.
Amongst the about 1,500 official RZM manufacturers of headgear
not such name was listed. Not given a permission, nor found as
revoked. And normally no cloth diamond was to be worn with a
orm of headgear like this!
In some ways the cap is anyway questionable!
(for crack) and NO, there was no NSDAP organization that did use
a cap like this.
Thank you Wilhelm. So, possible mistake on the behalf of the maker with that lower cord then. Garry mentioned here that Bohme & Steinbach were manufacturers of fire and air defence equipment, certainly in 1939: HJ hat (Jugendmütze) with cloth diamond for review
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Maybe, but they did not have an RZM-permission and that was required
for manufacturing headgear for a political organization.
This concern was mentioned for their fire-brigade and air-defence equipment,
for example in the "Feuerwehr Jahrbuch", issued 1938/1939.
They were not listed as manufacturer's for headgear for political organizations!
for manufacturing headgear for a political organization.
This concern was mentioned for their fire-brigade and air-defence equipment,
for example in the "Feuerwehr Jahrbuch", issued 1938/1939.
They were not listed as manufacturer's for headgear for political organizations!
Yes, I think this is what Gary meant i.e. that a firm making air defence and fire equipment is not going to have been making hats like this (and certainly not for the HJ).
