HJ Overseas Cap Sommermütze

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Hello guys,

I want to show You my overseas cap.
Is this cap intended for the HJ or BDM?! I have no idea..

And are both cap and pin original?
The pin is RZM marked M1/6
Could it be maker Karl Hensler from Pforzheim?

Thank You!

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You have a good , original cap . It looks like it may have had a cloth political eagle at one time also .
 
Is the pin also original?

Why do you think it may have had a cloth eagle?! I see no traces about a cloth eagle on it..
 
Your sommermutze has an earlier pattern RzM tag problibly around 1937 . This cap also has the metal HJ pin attached .
Giving these two facts ... In my opinion this cap was made between 1936 to 1941 as regulations forbid the wearing of the metal HJ pin on the sommermutze , being replaced by the cloth HJ cap diamond from mid 1942 onwards .
Going back to your original question ... if you look closer to the front of your cap you can make out small snags above the piping ...This is evidence of a cloth eagle .
Around 1940 the cloth eagles were ordered removed .
 
Thanks for the additional info Joecool! :clap2:

So it's normal that this cap has an attached pin and a removed cloth eagle?

Do you think this pin is period attached on the cap?
I think it is, but I'm not sure..
 
Your cap , as it is ; would be within regulation from 1940 to 1942 .:001_cool:
 
HJ/DJ Sommermuetze

This looks like a standard HJ (from 1937 also DJ) summer cap. Going on what I can see in the pictures I would agree that it had a cloth eagle attached at some point. To offer a logical explanation for that:

Amtliches Nachrichtenblatt Sonderdruck 7/38 dated 30.9.1938 states that the summer cap with cloth eagle was worn by those with no rank and by those in the the lower HJ leadership. However, I see a note in the regulations (appears to be from 1939) stating that only leaders wore the cloth eagle (rank range: HJ-Rottenführer (DJ-Hordenführer) to HJ-Oberscharführer (DJ-Oberjungzugführer). This lends weight to the idea that boys with no rank who were wearing summer caps in compliance with the Sept 1938 regulation would have had to unpick the cloth eagle less than a year later after the eagles became an item worn only by those with rank.
 
Thanks for all the info!

I took the pin off my cap and photographed the front and back.

Here some pics

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