Jugendmütze HJ. / DJ. / BDM

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Hello dear collectors,

does anyone know to what kind of headgear this RZM lebel belongs?
I have seen the sidecap "Jugendmütze DJ. BDM." and visor cap "Mütze HJ. DJ".
But what is a Jugendmütze HJ. DJ. BDM. ??

Thanks for any insights,

Christian

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Hi Christian,

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so it could be all 4 of them. Seems I need more pictures from the seller.

Thanks for now - I will be back if I get more info about the cap.

Chris
 
Hallo.The mütze is currently available on ebay.de.The Starting price is 500€

eBay | Jugendmütze HJ BJ BDM

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two pictures are viewable,but not in good quality.I asked on yesterday for more photo.Here is the answer

"hallo,

sorry I only have these 2 Fotos, one of the RZM is more detailed as
you can see in this part...
the cap belongs to a close friend who lost his husband so I help her in this case...
I can ask for more Fotos but to be clear there is nothing more to see than the black cap
and inside is only the RZM Etikett. I can say that the cap belonged to the mother of my friend and was found
in her house so it is very private.
regards
"
 

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Well, the first pic at least clears up the matter of which one of the four it was. This is the BdM "Baskenmütze" (later: BdM-Mütze). Early types are noted as being brown in 1933 and then black in 1934 ("Aufbau u. Abzeichen der NDSAP" and "Bekleidung u. Ausrüstung der HJ"). The early types were replaced with a new version on the 26th of Oct 1936 (Verordnungsblatt der RJF IV/26). The girls didn't like the old type so clearly the new one, looking a lot like the old one, wasn't ever going to be a runaway success. BdM leaders got decent hats in 1938.
 
Yes I was also asking about the cap on ebay. I was already in contact with the seller for 2 weeks because he/she lives only some minutes away from me, but I think our opinions about the value differ a bit...
I would be thankful if you could first let my try to get
the cap before making any offers to the seller.
Thanks,
Chris
 
Hello,

I don't like the shape of the top. See below the construction of a Baskenmütze :

 
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Hi Lauri,

The type made in sections with the button on the top is the original, old type ("Baskenmütze") as you say. It was replaced by a new type ("BdM-Mütze") in 1936 as I mentioned above and I think (in lieu of better pictures) that the one under discussion here is that newer type. The order (see below) describes it as having a one-piece top and no button with a cord along the seam of the part that was pulled down over the ear.

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Thank you Garry. My ignorance about this second model is now obsolete:)
 
Hallo.The baskenmütze is available again,same starting price and with news pictures

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