Geländesportwart, Schießwart etc specialist cufftitles

Garry

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Introduced on the 4th of December 1936 but man these look easy to fake. Does anyone have experience with them? Are there features which separate real from fake? I like mine but I've no idea whether they are actually good. They have clearly been cut from a roll and are unused.

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Does to me too Darin as they are always offered in unused condition. Well, I haven't seen a used one for sale anywhere over the last years anyway.

I remember Toby having a shirt with two of these sewn onto the sleeve. Hopefully he'll see this thread and we may see his cuff-titles in close-up.
 
Funny you mention the shirt Garry, it's up on another site right now. I too had a shirt with one of these on it, but in my case I think it was added. The construction looks period and they feel pretty good in hand. :confused:
 
hi dar
i know who has that shirt would be interesting to know where its for sale, i thimk these are like the dj sigrunes and a lot was found post war
 
it was on waf gar:


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I think that Toby has also a Geländesportwart cufftitle to sell.

I have seen so many fakes already... puff. I attach another one that has been copying so much.

I guess you can only be sure buying at 100% trustable people, right?

Regards

Antonio

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thing is with these as there are so many mint unissued ones ahrd to know whats real and whats not as they would be a farily easy design to copy just like most cloth insignia
stu
 
Me neither unfortunately. This is the closest I've got to one:

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I saw one of the red on another forum with an RZM control tag, but the backside looked different than any other I had seen. It was shown next to the more commonly encountered ones. Looked good from the photos, but who knows.
 
ive had the 3 that are the easiest to find, but never came across the white one, there gone now to another collector, hope he has better luck in finding the ski one. pete.
 
just found a pic of two i had, ill try and dig the green picture out. HJ Geländesportwart, HJ Sportwart

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Interesting thread. Personally, I am of the opinion that these should indeed be treated with caution as I suspect they have been faked. In fact, I have a couple somewhere which I believe are fakes. I will try and find them.

The two on the shirt were, from memory, quite soft to the touch (as was the single Gelaendesportwart example I had not so long back). I also believe there is a difference in the qaulity of the embroidery cf. real and fake (or at least what I consider fake) bands. More akin to BeVo SS cuffbands on the real ones.

The HJ Schiwart/HJ Skiwart one, is a band I have never encountered.

I have a photo showing a couple in wear, i.e. on the same sleeve. I will scan and post it for reference.

Best,
Toby.

PS How much is being asked for the fire-damaged shirt?
 
hi dar
seems to have gone the link now shows a dj shoulder board, any idea how much it was
stu
by the way there a nice gausieger 1938 fake on there
 
Stu the price was around 600usd give or take. Lots of fake stuff on that site, doesn't surprise me to see a Gausieger badge fake. I buy there sometimes buy only stuff I know well like straps.
 
Me neither unfortunately. This is the closest I've got :)

And what is immediately obvious about these titles and the others shown in the thread?
Colin Davie

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: Is this the "period evidence" you were on about with the following comment you posted on WAF on 27.8.2013 about how you thought you were unfairly treated here on the HJ forum?

"I told them in that forum and showed them a full length H.J. SPORTWART cufftitle, showed them period proof that they should be full length, but got ridiculed too..."

Well, the above attachment wasn't your period proof now was it. You got that from post #13 a little further up this page or from another site where I posted it. You weren't "ridiculed" either. The truth is that there were actually no responses to this post apart from mine (post #24) which, you will notice, is supporting your question.
 

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