Early HJ group shot photo outside Sanssouci palace

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Hello all
Just got this photo in and first thing that struck me was the size of the photo. It is 170x220mm so really quite a large photo.
Lots to look at in this photo, from the different uniforms in wear to the different types of headgears used by different ranks/members.
The photo is taken on the steps of the Sanssouci palace in Postdam, I will add a photo of the palace today.
I recognise the man at the front left, think I have seen him in a book or something? (2nd photo) Also love the early dagger handle on the man next to him, from a pack knife?
Any and all help is appreciated.
Thank you

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Hi Strumble69,

if I see it correctly, there were also members of the "Jungstahlhelm" at "Sanssouci" back then. :unsure:

A very early photo, is there a reference to the date it was taken, is there a stamp on the back, a note from the photographer at the time?

At that time it was not unusual for German national youth organizations to take part in such trips, or visits together with the HJ.
There are many examples of this, you know that all of these organizations were taken over after 1933, or were forcibly taken over...

Thank you for sharing the photo!

Micha
 
Hi Wilhelm,

my eyes aren't getting any better either, I'm sure I need new glasses... :cool:

It would be interesting, if you would write about the more than 200 banned (youth) organizations...
Unfortunately, I do not have this detailed knowledge.

My little knowledge relates to the former "Jungdeutscher Orden", the "Jungdeutsche Jugend".

Jungdeutscher Orden: Jungdeutscher Orden – Wikipedia

The old gentleman, my grandfather Hans, kept all the papers, all the old photos, it's a lot of material.
They must have been important years for the young man, the years between 1918 and 1933, they certainly weren't easy times, but who am I telling...

Sorry for my mistake! :(

Micha
 
For the moment I do not have time to give such information
as I am in a finishing stage of volume 8 of my headgear-series,
the putting together of volume 9, where I have to make over
500 captions and I begun a re-start for the volumes 10 and 11.

If I can find the time I can scan the page on which most of them
are mentioned. Will see!

I was a little premature and exagarrated with 200.
I may have thought this, but I was wrong and had not checked
it before I wrote it.. The number was in my old mind. The total
of forbidden or abolished groups was about 80 or so.

Maybe Garry can put the list on lin which is in the Verordnungsblatt.
 
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Back shot with an inscription and the photographers stamp. Inscription seems to be done with a ball point pen so added post war?
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The missing hyphen makes it somewhat difficult to understand.

Grenz(add: -) u(nd) Auslandsreferentenseminar in Potsdam
Workshop for border and foreign desk officers in Potsdam
 
What I was able to read:

... Auslandsreferenten, Seminar in ...

Foto-Atelier
Erich Schwager
Potsdam

That's all I can see, sorry...

Micha
 
KleinerHäwelmann said:
Hi Wilhelm,

...............It would be interesting, if you would write about the more than 200 banned (youth) organizations...
Unfortunately, I do not have this detailed knowledge..............


Micha
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wilhelm saris said:
For the moment I do not have time to give such information
as I am in a finishing stage of volume 8 of my headgear-series,
the putting together of volume 9, where I have to make over
500 captions and I begun a re-start for the volumes 10 and 11.

If I can find the time I can scan the page on which most of them
are mentioned. Will see!

I was a little premature and exagarrated with 200.
I may have thought this, but I was wrong and had not checked
it before I wrote it.. The number was in my old mind. The total
of forbidden or abolished groups was about 80 or so.

Maybe Garry can put the list on lin which is in the Verordnungsblatt.
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As Wim says, there is a list of absorbed and disbanded youth organisations in the RJF Verordnungsblatt dated 17.11.1933. Here is the list as it was in 1939:

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Thanks Garry,

as you probably know, the german designation was "Gleichschaltung".

Here a link on the topic: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjRgqmwqKz_AhUKHOwKHbHiCwUQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https://ns-in-ka.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Jugendarbeit_im_Dritten_Reich_01.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3AHQ6PfjEB7TqtCw5PdLfC

Title: Jugendarbeit im Dritten Reich (1933-1945)
Youth work in the Third Reich (1933-1945) The synchronization of youth associations

Micha

* But thank you for the overview, as always, the digital "watermark" of the forum is very annoying, who came up with this nonsense..? (n)
 
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Garry said:
As Wim says, there is a list of absorbed and disbanded youth organisations in the RJF Verordnungsblatt dated 17.11.1933. Here is the list as it was in 1939:

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thanks Garry for showing thislist. I wasn't aware of it! But may have it somewhere.
 
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