HJ Leader boards in the staff around 1933

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Pimpf359 said:
Above is an excerpt from the book from December 1933 - Uniforms of the HJ
and below examples from the boards.

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A wonderful collection of such rare pieces - it must have taken you many years to take this beautiful photo. You even outbid the RZM.
Eine wunderbare Zusammenstellung so seltener Stücke - es wird viele Jahre gedauert haben bis du dieses schöne Foto machen konntest. Damit hast du sogar die RZM noch überboten.
 
It is astonishing that we have four different colors in four pieces - but that could be due to age and many other influences. Not every manufacturer used the same red cloth. And that is what I particularly like. The small differences.

Erstaunlich ist , daß wir hier bei vier Stücken , vier verschiedene Farbtöne haben - aber das kann am Alter und an vielen anderen Einflüssen liegen. Dazu verwendete nicht jeder Hersteller das selbe rote Tuch. Und das gefällt mir besonders. Die kleinen Unterschiede .
 
Yes, exactly, Michael, the manufacturers of these flaps naturally had their own rules about how the flaps should look, but the fabric and thread did not all come from the same manufacturer and mostly came from the region. So these fabrics and ultimately the flaps could not be the same. Later, with the black ones, it was different.
 
Thank you Steve for this explanation. Let me wish you luck for your next finds and purchases.
 
remember that differences were allowed according to what the RZM says.
10% was permitted anyway!
I once have seen the color range for pink, when I visited a German collector:
it went from about crimson up to nearly white! His material came from a
manufacturer. Note also the Amann color-chart: before 1945 they had listed
over 1,000 colors. These days just only 300. If I remember well there were
about 17 different colors of red.
 
I would never have estimated that the RZM had listed more than 1,000 colors. Thanks a lot for such a detailed information , Wim !
There were 15,000 sales outlets ( Brauner Laden) and 71,000 uniform tailors in the Reich (Wikipedia) - this explains why a control organization like the RZM (Reichszeugmiesterei) was needed. I was able to find out that Richard Büchner (photo) was head of the RZM for a while. Do we know anything about his successors?

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For a really long while. When Reichszeugmeister Richard Bürkner died on 13 January 1941 at the age of 43 (the funeral took place on 17 January 1941 at Munich's Waldfriedhof cemetery), he had led the RZM for 14 years. His successor in May 1941 was Wilhelm Helfer, who, like Büchner, was an Alter Kämpfer, high-ranking SA leader (SA-Group Hochland leader) and member of the Nazi Reichstag.
 
Hey Jack , you really surprise me. How can a man have such knowledge . Your library must be huge. And thank you for taking the time to answer my question in such detail. :thumbup::clap2:
 
Here some mastheads of the Mitteilungsblatt der RZM.
First the last issue with the name Richard Büchner (not Bürkner).
His correct name was mentioned in "10 Jahre Reichszeugmeisterei",
published in "Unser Wille und Weg" of January 1939.
Second masthead is with the name of Josef Müller, who took over
for a while when Büchner died.
The last masthead is with the name of the new Reichszeugmeister
Wilhelm Helfer when he got that function.

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Hello Wim, you must have a truly amazing archive. Thank you for the three copies, which identify not less than three different people in the same year. I got the misspelled name of Wilhelm Büchner from Wikipedia. Thank you very much for the effort you've put into shedding some light on things that would otherwise go unnoticed. I saw a photo of the RZM building in Munich online - a very large building with many offices. There was obviously a lot to do back then. :thumb: ;)
 
Danke WIM
The RZM Haus today

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I am really impressed Wim. Thank you very much for this article from your private archives. You have chosen one of the most interesting articles in connection with the RZM, which not only identifies Büchner as the head of the office but also reports many other very interesting things. I did not know that the RZM building was constructed in a specially created new district of Munich and that they apparently also built hundreds of apartments for the new employees at the same time. The RZM Munich had 500 workrooms on six floors and from there no fewer than 800 cloth factories, 1,000 shirt manufacturers, 1,000 cap makers, 1,700 leather goods factories and 900 metal goods factories were coordinated. A further 21,500 retailers and 500 wholesalers took care of sales. There was also a modern materials testing office, and anyone who has ever held a leather belt belonging to the NSDAP or the HJ in their hands will confirm that the quality is still of the highest order, even today, after more than 80 years. The bureaucracy and sense of order have ensured that we can still find documents today that make collecting objects from this period easier. Sometimes we too are puzzled as to why this or that article has a certain color, which remains difficult to explain despite records and specialist books, but we do know a great deal about rank insignia and equipment used by the Hitler Youth because a few people saved and archived it for us. And everyone who looks for answers in this forum benefits from that. The level of the information provided here at HJ Research.com is, in my opinion, very very high!
 
The buildings did not only be for the RZM, but in the backyard there was a big garage (Autohof)
for the many trucks beloning to the Reichsautozug "Deutschland" and Hilfszug "Bayern". I wrote
a book about that, you won't believe your eyes for the many different trucks.


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What an interesting story about the backyard of the RZM. I read the trucks they used those days were the most modern trucks . Unfortunately most people do not know anything about it today. The next book that I will purchase. Thanks for your advice Wim !!!
 
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