Very Early HJ-Führer

[nh0gl3]

This photo was likely taken in late 1933. Neat to see him wearing two Traditions Badges, a Postdam Badge and a Prussian Navy Belt. Love to hear your comments!

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[Pimpf359]

A great picture and thanks for showing it.

 

[wilhelm saris]

nice the wearing of the navy buckle, but why HJ-Führer?
Nothing tells me he was a leader of a unit!

 

[Pimpf359]

I agree with you Wilhelm. Surely he put it on the caption of the pictures. ( H.J.- Führen )

nice the wearing of the navy buckle, but why HJ-Führer?
Nothing tells me he was a leader of a unit!

 

[ewan0939]

Great photo. why would he be wearing a Navy belt ??

 

[wilhelm saris]

who knows, perhaps while his father was in the navy or he did like the form of the buckle.
So, the why question never can be answered!

 

[volkund]

that belt is very nice! thank you for showing

 

[nh0gl3]

I thought it was interesting as this was a recorded leader of another member who had joined prior to 1933/Postdam (He was photographed with the Golden Hitler Youth Badge). Perhaps they weren't as strict with uniform regulations that early on? I have seen later photos of members with buckles other than the HJ (I think it was Police).

Wim: What would we expect to see on a leader this early?

Thanks guys for your input!

 

[wilhelm saris]

for me: a leaders visored cap and shoulder boards.

Normally a lad, wearing a buckle of another organization, would be repremanded when there was an inspection!

 

[nh0gl3]

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[Pimpf359]

In 1933 the guides also wore cords that indicated their rank. A HJ leader should already be wearing a cap, shoulder boards and cord at that time. At least wearing one of these should he wear as a guide.
The buckle shown in the last picture appears to be a police buckle.

 

[nh0gl3]

Yes it is a police buckle. I think the cords were a bit later mid-1933 same time as the triangles?

 

[Carlyle]

This photo was likely taken in late 1933. Neat to see him wearing two Traditions Badges, a Postdam Badge and a Prussian Navy Belt. Love to hear your comments!

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I’m new at this so here’s a dumb question. How can you identify the badges and belt by these photos? Even when I zoom in on the photos I still can not make them out.

 

[Chlodwig]

Hi Carlyle , here is a poice buckle for you ! Please compare

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[Carlyle]

Thanks for the photo but my question is how can you see these items clearly enough in the photos to ID them. To me they look too fuzzy when I enlarge them.

 

[Chlodwig]

Thanks for the photo but my question is how can you see these items clearly enough in the photos to ID them. To me they look too fuzzy when I enlarge them.

Hey Carlyle , you are right: Nobody can say that it is definitly a Police buckle but the Police buckle is the only similar buckle . And we all know that the HJ used a huge variety of sympathy buckles that are forgotten today . Unfortunately the quality of the old photo does not allow us to verify this buckle certainty.

 

[Carlyle]

Hey Carlyle , you are right: Nobody can say that it is definitly a Police buckle but the Police buckle is the only similar buckle . And we all know that the HJ used a huge variety of sympathy buckles that are forgotten today . Unfortunately the quality of the old photo does not allow us to verify this buckle certainty.

Thank you now I understand. I thought you had a way of viewing the photo that I wasn’t aware of. There are so many of them that aren’t clear enough to identify. I do everything I can to make out more details, brighter light, magnifier, etc. Thanks for your patience.