In your question about ,Nimmergut, I have no comment as I did not know the man.Klaus Patzwalls is a fine reasercher, so he may have found out more? I remember when I showed an Aircrew badge in cloth many years agp, it was concidered a Fantersey piece. Klaus Patzwalls put one in his
book.
As to the badge you have shown, the pin,hinge and hook construction are not as the known originalsw, but are like that on the Zink wear piece. The price also is that which I would have put on the zink piece.
Thanks for the speedy reply.
Jörg Nimmergut is still, the only (as far as i know) vereidigter Sachverständiger für Orden und
Ehrenzeichen in Germany. What that means basically, is that should any legal assistance in court be required, or any "Last word" on Medals etc.. for legal reasons, customs etc etc, then his "opinion, estimate or last word" is the Last word
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So if he says it`s real, then it`s legally, officially real. For whatever thats worth ?
I dont know any of the two Gentlemen mentioned, i have seen them before, from a distance, but thats about it
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In saying that, When reading Patzwalls GPB book, even though he slams Nimmergut plenty of times, and reveals many mistakes or errors in his books, even though for this reason alone his book is very uncomfortable to read, and seems to be more a boxing max between giants, everything he says is based on detailed research and fact, so at the end of the day, i guess they Triumph above any reputation or degree.
•Yes the attachment, well they were replaced, fixed etc, Golden Party badges and others show this sometimes too, so i say best not to judge the authenticity of such an expensive item just on the attachment. In fact, this particular pin plate with crimp in the middle was used before the third reich, during, and even today, so very hard, if not impossible to go by this particular attachment. (could be 1914-2011)
Now i have to ask:
Lets leave the pin and plate out of this for a moment, after all, i am certain that these kind of High end items are not judged solely by looking at the attachment, so what other aspects of the badge (the weitze one above) would you be looking at, in order to form some sort of opinion on authenticity ?