• Or maybe you can give us an example of a very High Class award, that is known to have been manufactured in Solid Gold, Silver and then Zinc?
Can you? this would go some way in establishing a parallel ...
• Or maybe you can give us an example of a very High Class award, that is known to have been manufactured in Solid Gold, Silver and then Zinc?
Can you prove this? can you show us one period document to support this claim? One period mention ? anything other than your opinion. (I don't mean what you have seen, or held in hand, i mean reliable, period proof)The german order was produced in tomback, and latterly in silver.
Can you prove this? can you show us one period document to support this claim? One period mention ? anything other than your opinion.
So you are saying, this badge was struck in silver, stamped 835 to denote the planchet being 835/1000 parts german silber, and then Fire-gilded after ? like the Golden Party Badges? (Why? to hide the silver, or give it a protective coating to stop the silver getting scratched?) and this 835 stamp, as you say, was quote: "commonly used" ? What do you mean here ? commonly used on El Cheap-O jewelry, or commonly used on Extremely High class awards ?THE FIRST POINT, WHY STAMPED .835, WELL THIS WAS ONE OF THE SIVER GRADE MARKS USED IN GERMANY AT THE TIME. You will find that it was commonly used. So the piece is made of silver grade .835. IT IS NOT SILVER PLATED. It is mercury guilded.
I contacted Deumer and Mr Cosens said the first pieces were produced in tomback and afterwards in silver
You are surely aware, that you are talking about an Award, that was awarded a total of six times to the Dead, and 4 times to the living, and you expect us to believe that it was, as you say, produced in Tombak, and Later in Silver? Now the copies that you own, or the various versions that you have had made up for yourself, or found, bought, borrowed or aquired are of little interest here when it comes to backing this statement up.. i could have a good copy made in Bio-friendly Lead and spraypaint it gold, that would NOT give me the right to "claim" that it was made in lead though, would it.The german order was produced in tomback, and latterly in silver.
I think you are quite correct. I should not wast Forum page space. Thus I must leave this in your very capable hands. I am sure you will be able to make the right judgements.
That`s a good way of phrasing it. sometimes i use 10 posts to get to a simple sentence like this.....that a book being published now should represent the absolute cutting-edge of current research.
Going against History here, the first Dead man was awarded his Order, in cheap Tombac as you say, in 1942. Then, much later on, in 1945 when the last 4 were awarded, they changed the cheap Tombac to Silver ? Do you realize how off the wall you sound, when you try and convince us that the Highest NSDAP award, awarded only 10 times, was made in various metals?the first pieces were produced in tomback, and latterly they were produced in silver.
Yes, that's why my Play-dough Golden Party badges are Real.These are not grades but methods of construction. The manufacture could produce in what he liked.
Sorry Paul, I saw the Weitze one and several others.to bad you got
no pics would have been very interesting
Wow, thats a new one, maybe a sign of the Changing times ? i never had a problem before taking pictures, although not everyone wants you too, you can feel that.... On weitzes Facebook page you can see pictures that he himself (or his wife) have taken at shows? Some of the smaller shows are tricky for sure, and always best to have a few friends with you as sometimes the fake sellers can get quite agressive... but i dont see the problem? why would a dealer not be proud of his stock and want others to see? would also be great advertisment for the Show, showing those who did not attend What they missed........
But people were not allowed to take any pictures within the hall of the fair.