Sorry for the small pictures, how that could happen again I really don't know.
Probably happens if it has to go quickly, here again with the original pictures ...
For the quick reader: Not all HJ badges marked with an "S" are post-war forgeries, but have actually existed.
In this thread, the two manufacturers M1/35 and M1/101 are treated in the same way, I do not have these pieces for comparison and do not play a role for me here. This is about two M1/36 and one M1/63. So two completely different manufacturers than those listed here for comparison.
I have had a heavy zinc piece with the "S" marking for a long time, which I have already presented here, and since then I have been of the opinion that this thesis is not really correct. Now I was able to purchase another piece from the manufacturer M1/36 - Berg & Nolte AG, Lüdenscheid and compare it with other pieces from the manufacturer and not only with photos but with a magnifying glass in hand. I think the thesis that everything with "S" is post-war forgeries can no longer be confirmed in this way.
First, I'll show a black piece from the same manufacturer and the same material aluminum with thin copper foil. I don't think anyone would question this piece when it was presented or sold. These pieces can be found more often in this style and I think many have these pieces from the manufacturer M1/36 in their collection.
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Now the second in silver also an M1/36 piece ...
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The second is just not painted black and has the "S" stamp. Both weigh almost the same, the black 9.1 grams and the silver 8.8 grams (i.e. 0.3 grams difference because of the color / production, etc.) otherwise I can't make out any differences. The RZMM1/36 stamping is also completely identical, as can be seen from the shape of the "3". The production of both pieces is absolutely clean.
Now again the already shown heavy zinc piece with 15.2 grams also with "S" stamp.
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Both silver pieces, the one made of aluminum and the one made of zinc, come from secured estates.
Here are more pictures of the silver M1/36 from the edges ...
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And from the black ...
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And a few more comparisons ...
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