Thank you so much for that information. That was more helpful than trudging though the conflicting nformation on the net. No one ever mentioned the license date of the maker before now.
No Worries, the reason for this is that History is scary, and usually proves what everyone knows, but wont say it coz they all own one
People dont like to FIRST use history, small details like this about the license, but would rather talk about the number of sun rays and all the things that you mentioned you found on the net, and leave History out of the conversation altogether. We can, and MUST, all have opinions, but when History shows us facts, we really should accept them, unless we can prove them wrong, in that case, it would be more than just "our opinion" but something serious... like..suggesting that "our opinion" was superior over Period, documented facts. Sometimes it could be, but it would need to be based on History as well, and not just what other say of suggest.
The ONLY time, ever, that you will ever find this particular Makers code on a small badge, will be a badge that was made BEFORE January 1935, and the code will either Be the normal for that period, i.e: prefixed with a Nr, N°, N or not at all. There is also the chance that it MAY be prefixed with MA/ but that would be slim, seeing as no period small badges are known using this marking system, which ran parallel to the Nr. prefixing system from late 1933 to mid 1935.
Here, any badge by Karl Gutenkunst will look like this, with simply the number 4. The inclusion of the prefix M1/4 is an immediate clue that the badge is a Fake, no exceptions!! To be blunt, there never was, the number
M1/4 at all. Evenm though all the lists will tell you there was, there was not.
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