Hello,
Garry think this are copys... I'm not so sure !
No, I said that I am of the opinion that the NSS and the Erziehungsanstalt are fantasies, not copies.
On the DJ Budapest I said that it will need to be shown that there once was an administrative Deutsche Jugend district called Budapest before we can move on that triangle. As I said, I haven't written it off yet.
Edit:
I intended to add a follow-up comment anyway as soon as I had read Spannenberger's
book on the VDU so now that I know more here goes:
I will revise my opinion of the term NS-Erziehungsanstalt with regard to Hungary. In the Reich it had a different connotation. Whether the
triangle actually existed and was worn during the period has yet to be demonstrated but the term "NS-Erziehungsanstalt" was at least used by the Volksbund der deutschen in Ungarn (VDU) in connection to the training of VDU kids along the lines of the NPEA. There were eight of these NS-Erziehungsanstalten known in 1942
1.
Still on the same subject, Spannenberger goes on to describe the uniforms of the pupils at the NS-Erziehungsanstalt in Fünfkirchen (Hungarian: Pécs): "..wore HJ uniform with the title HSS Baranya...". After that line, "Nationalsozialistisches Schülerheim" seems to be offered as the translation of the acronym HSS (I'm guessing that "HSS" is a typo in the book and that it should be "NSS"). So, if my guess is correct then according to this book the triangles worn by pupils at this particular school probably had "NSS" followed by a geographical location. Did Budapest have one of these schools? However, even if it did and the pupils wore a similar triangle, who would have worn the "NS-Erziehungsanstalt" triangle?
In any case, after grabbing Jo's book (which I really must send back to you at some point!) I don't view the NSS and the Erziehungsanstalt triangles with the same level of scepticism now. There is still a way to go though and I'm looking forward to Debertex's input.
1Spannenberger, Der Volksbund der deutschen in Ungarn 1938-1944 p349