No need, just crush the bag a few times, take a scalpel blade to the M4/ and gently disfigure so it looks like M/7.With many thanks to Jo for uncovering this pile of rubbish, note the bag marked Olympiade Berlin 1936 is marked M4/46.
Knives came under the RZM designation M7, not M4, which I believe is for Buckles.
Will be interesting to see how the sellers of these Olympic knives can explain away that one...
No doubt we'll see a bag for the "DJ" knife and the "BDM" knife sometime soon...
Regards
Russ
b3liner from the ebay sales page said:This Reichsparteitag Souvenir Knife has the same aluminum hilt as we find on DJ knives. The aluminum has a few mild age stains but barring these is in generally near mint condition throughout. The knife is equipped with stag grip plates. The stag has a nice tone to its grains throughout. The trimmed edges are just starting to take on a slightly golden tone. Having been protected all of these years they do not have the deep golden oxidation that we normally see on a stag grip. The grip plates are retained by aluminum rivets which have dressed heads on both sides. The blade of this knife is etched on the obverse with a crown. The crown are in a gilt-like color. Below this is, “Reichsparteitag 1935”. The blade still has all of its original crossgraining on it and is still bright. This blade is in full mint condition. On the reverse, there is the etch of the pumahead with the firm’s name and location, “Puma Solingen”. The original leather washer is in place. The scabbard shell is a steel tapered type and it is in near mint condition throughout. The paint shows a little minor age in the surfaces. The black leather belt loop is riveted to the scabbard, the rivets showing traces of rust and age. The leather retainer loop is intact and sound. Accompanying this fine knife is the original issue sack. It is of a manila paper having the Puma Solingen name and location printed on the front with the puma around stump logo. Below this is printed the name of the item, “Fahrtenmesser”. Below this in rubber stamping is the type of knife, “Reichs Parteitag 1935”, and below this is a printing indicating that the knife is produced of “good steel”.
This is a great opportunity to own one of the last remaining knives. These knives were found left over in Eastern Germany after the wall went down. There was a large carton of them that was brought into a German show and they were all sold in the middle nineties. Most of these have gone into collections by now so it is rare to see one come up for sale.
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popskipa on WAF said:1936 Olympic Games, Hitler Youth knife by Emil Voos with packet of issue.
To quote respected UK Dealer, Andrew Gates: "These beautiful little knives were made by the Emil Voos company for sale as commemorative souvenirs of the 1936 Olympics. There is some controversy around that perhaps they did not exist and have been made since the war. It is some years since these all were found and brought onto the market, perhaps 15 years ago. I was around then, and saw the original packing box that they all came in! It had been stored badly and the top layer and bottom layer of daggers had been affected by the damp. The paper packets were destroyed and the daggers were rusty. Further down into the crate the daggers and packets were better and complete. I purchased for my own collection, one of the very rusty ones with part packet and a couple of the complete ones with no damage. I still have the better one in my collection to this day. All the daggers were identical, apart from one thing. Some had real stag grips, some had imitation stag grips made of wood. I am pleased to be able to offer another one of these very interesting collectables. The dagger itself is mint and un-issued (as they all were). This blade is in mint condition. It has the party day,Olympic etching one one side in gold/black/white. The other side has the Emil Voos logo/trademark. This dagger has real stag grips with the tiny enamel HJ diamond affixed to the grip. The scabbard is the small DJ size and is in mint condition. They all came with little paper bags/packets, and again these were all the same, printed with the Emil Voos details and over stamped in red ink for the BERLINER OLYMPIADE. I think these are super little knives and have thoroughly enjoyed owning my one for all these years. I hope the next owner of this does too".
This is a small Fahrtenmesser or Hitler Youth knife. It is smaller than the usual encountered Hitler Youth knife and was specially produced for a presentation gift to the young people from the National Socialist Youth Organisation, who did so much to help with this the grandest of Olympiads. Unlike its larger cousin this petite dagger has stag grips, while the normal issue one has black plastic grips. Even the enamelled insignia at the middle of the grip is smaller.
The blade is attractive with the crowned bear of the city (Berlin) and the National Socialist sports eagle with Olympic rings. The saying “Zum Ruhme des Sports zur Ehre des Vaterlandes” is reminiscent of the actual spirit of these 1936 games. It means: “The Glory of Sports is the Honour of the Fatherland.” They were produced by the firm of Emil Voos of Solingen.
ÂŁ695.00
More images on request.
Thank you for looking, Keith
Thats only because of BREXIT, if they were still in the EU, the price would be ÂŁ2000.- and the paper bag would be extra!Wow 695 GBP to get raped.
Jo....... Believe it or not we are still in the EUThats only because of BREXIT, if they were still in the EU, the price would be ÂŁ2000.- and the paper bag would be extra!
Yes he PMed me, saying that he had already bought it, but after reading the thread backed out from the sale.Looks like Joe saved a guy from getting ripped off on that one. According to the WAF thread he bought it but returned it after Joe and a couple of others outed it as garbage. Good work Joe, Mac 66, and Frogprince.
Yes, but staying fair, this auction house is not at fault.Here we go again!!!!!
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