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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by steiner View Post
    ....you soon learn to hurry past his table!!! ...
    There are dealers like that in Germany and the US too... same stuff on the tables... best to not hurry past though, best to stop and start chatting.. there is nothing funnier to watch than a uncomfortable dealer, realizing he has been made, and watching him babble his way out of the situation, as smoke rises from his collar and his welcome expression turns to one of Hate. Any Forum visitor will know how some people react when you call them out, or tell them what they did not want to hear.. reaction N°1 is: Insult, be rude, insult again and try and make the opponent look like an idiot, BUT, when you catch these same people, Face to Face, it`s very different. Nothing gives me more pleasure than to watch them shrink into their shells.
    I hope that this dealer/user responds to this thread, but i somehow doubt it though. Fingers crossed.

  2. #22
    I've bought from him once, some HJ straps. The deal went smooth and the item was well packaged. As always know your items before you spend your money.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Gefolgschaft View Post
    As always know your items before you spend your money.
    Of course, but would you not consider this as Fraudulent ? for example, you post Schulterklappen, say you know they are fake, hear ppl tell you they are fake, and agree, saying you knew so anyway.... and then two years later, you try to sell them stating that they are Original TR period items that were removed from a RZM stock card.
    People are free to sell fakes as Original, they always have, most Vet stories and others are smoke and BS, But how i look at this, is that this is basic, common, garden variety FRAUD.
    There are people sitting in Jail right now for fraud, for writing things they should not have.
    It`s a small badge and a small amount of money ... agreed, but Fraud, is fraud, and it`s a criminal offence. It is wrong, and gives this hobby a bad name. What makes it worse, is that when you google this dealers name, you hit blog upon blog on forums when he has posted about exactly this, about not believing any old story, doing your homework, how 60-80% of everything is Fake etc etc... how dealers make up stories..and now, it seems he has been caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
    Way back in the day, we were taught that stealing was stealing, no matter if it was a half cent piece of candy or a car.

  4. #24
    It is unfortunate that in this hobby behavior like this is all too common Jo. It's difficult to for me to think of any dealer nowdays that has not sold bad items, either deliberatley or "mistakenly". It's depressing to think about and one of the reasons I don't buy many items at all anymore.

  5. #25
    I found another two online that look suspicious. I don't want to list them on the HJ-Leistungsabzeichen Fake thread until it`s certain that other identical numbered ones are floating about. Same maker as the already listed two on the above mentioned thread.
    M1/63
    116846
    107703
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  6. #26
    BOY THEY BOTH LOOK PLANTED AND CLEANED UP. THE BRONZE ONE IS VERY POORLY CAST AND FINISHED. MY FRIEND YOU HAVE CERTAINLY OPENED UP A CAN OF WORMS HERE. GREAT STUFF FOR DEBATE AND COMMENT PLUS I CAN FEEL EVERY ONE RUSHING TO THE ROOM IN ORDER TO VIEW THEIR SPECIMENS



  7. #27
    Paul, my gut feeling is the same as yours, but without finding the same numbers online, like i just did with the Phillip Militaria fake M1/63, they sadly cant be classed as Outright fakes just yet... with a bit of luck, others with the same numbers will turn up online soon, then they can take their rightful place in the Fake HJ Thread. I`m sure this is not just a M1/63 problem, but also M1/101 as well, at the moment though, i want to stick to just these M1/63 fakes, otherwise it will get too complicated.
    .

  8. #28
    TRUE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT NOW IS MEMBERS ARE BEING FULLY WARNED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. I HAVE COPIED THE NUMBERS AND AM LOOKING AT MY CONTACTS




  9. #29
    I remember finding this one being advertised as a Repro somewhere sometime... so i guess it`s not just M1/63 numbered ones after all, although this one looks pretty fake just from the pics.
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  10. #30
    Yes the 101 ones are bad


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