Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17
  1. #1

    Please login to view user info

    HJ Einsatzgefolgschaft and Jugendkompanie Gottingen armbands - thoughts?

    Hi. Any thoughts on this armband? Looks bad to me, like a Manion's fantasy piece? Value range if real?

    Thanks in advance.

    Attached Images Attached Images

  2. #2

    Please login to view user info
    Which armband are you refering to ?

  3. #3
    The Gottingen could well be a WW1 period piece. The Jugendkompanie was a unit composed of school-age boys who were drilled and taught to shoot etc. They took the number of the local infantry regiment.

    The Einsatzgefolgschaft armband must be a fantasy. The Einsatzgefolgschaften and their duties are described in a 1938 regulation. They were raised in Berlin, Munich, Hamburg and Dortmund and were composed of hand-picked boys for special duties (honour formations for dignitaries and the like) and their turn-out had to be of a high standard. I can't believe that they would ever have worn a printed item like that.

    Edit: see also post #9 below.

  4. #4

    Please login to view user info
    Well, Joe, you bring up a good point...I was originally asking about the armband that is lower in the picture, but both armbands pictured are very curious.

  5. #5

    Please login to view user info
    There's a pic of the E-G armband in Angolia's Volume 1 of The HJ, page 184-185. He mentions the regulations about the E-G, or Special Assignment. He says it was required that each member store a new uniform to be issued in the event the unit was called to duty. He says the order made no mention of the listed armband.

    Regards

    Russ
    Last edited by RussellM; 10th July 2009 at 02:16 AM.

  6. #6
    I have to agree with Garry on this one. I've seen those armbands up for sale before, and they just sit. If they were legitimate and scarce they would be snapped up quickly.

  7. #7

    Please login to view user info
    Missed a bit out which could be important. Angolia mentions "a series of armbands can be observed in period photographs being worn by members of the Hitler Youth. .... Some of those encountered are as follows: Einsatz-Gefolgsch. ... Black printed block letter title on the white field of the standard HJ armband."

    Reads like there are period pics of this in wear, but none are shown.

    Regards

    Russ

  8. #8

    Please login to view user info
    Sounds like it'd be too easy to jazz up a regular armband and make it out to be some kind of rarity, but that's just an opinion, not advice.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by RussellM View Post
    There's a pic of the E-G armband in Angolia's Volume 1 of The HJ, page 184-185. He mentions the regulations about the E-G, or Special Assignment. He says it was required that each member store a new uniform to be issued in the event the unit was called to duty. He says the order made no mention of the listed armband.

    Regards

    Russ
    Yes, Angolia's information is confirmed by the regulations I have here Russ. I should have mentioned this in my first post but there is no mention made of a special armband for the Einsatzgefolgschaft in the regulations and they go into a lot of detail on these units.

    The distinguishing feature of the Einsatzgefolgschaft uniforms was a cufftitle applied to the lower left sleeve showing the bestowed name (Ehrenname) of the Gefolgschaft. Apart from that the uniforms were standard.

    The Gottingen armband is not HJ. The references I have for these put them in the WW1 period.

  10. #10

    Please login to view user info
    I hate to wade in on these "is it period" threads, truth can hurt. Its sometimes difficult to judge cloth or anything else when its not in hand.In this case. Douglas,I really don't like anything I see in the entire photo let alone the 2 foremost armbands but that's just me and I am looking at a photo. Doubt and suspicion are a prevalent thing in this hobby any more and as I have entered my reclining years I tend to have more doubt.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

HJ-Research, the Hitler Youth Militaria Collector Forum
Copyright © HJ-Research.com 2009 -
Web Hosting by Vidahost "Hosting for Life"