HJ belt, buckle, and cross strap

[TxGauleiter]

I'm interested in understanding the proper belt, buckle, and cross strap to be correct for an HJ uniform. (with a youth brown shirt)

how hard is it to locate a cross strap?
should it be dark brown, or black? (I suspect black)
what are the qualities and attributes I should look for to ensure whatever equipment I find is correct for an HJ ensemble?

 

[WernerBamberg]

Both colours are used..

 

[TxGauleiter]

thank you for that, would love to learn more!

 

[TxGauleiter]

will they be found with either silver or gold fittings?

 

[wilhelm saris]

Hello TxGauleiter,

I once wrote an extensive article about HJ buckles for the Military Advisor:
Nr. 1 winter 2000/2001 and Nr. 2 spring 2002.

 

[TxGauleiter]

belt buckles are important, so I will seek these out...
the belts and cross straps are equally important to me to get correct, are they discussed in those issues as well?

 

[wilhelm saris]

as far as I remember, yes! Can't have a look at this moment.

 

[TxGauleiter]

Mr Saris - I know your materials are inaccessible at the moment...
I don't own the first issue you referenced, however I do own the 2nd - and unless I'm missing something, it's not in Spring 2002...
(I am simply adding this clarification in case a different viewer at some point decides to buy Spring 2002 based on this post)

I am interested in locating these issues, in case anyone here has these (or any other Military Advisor issues they no longer need and would part with)

 

[wilhelm saris]

Part 1 was published as nr. 1 dated winter 2000/2001;
Part 2 was published as nr. 2 dated spring 2001
sorry.

I have many issues laying around in boxes. Maybe - when
having the time - I will list them and inform you all!

 

[Garry]

I'm interested in understanding the proper belt, buckle, and cross strap to be correct for an HJ uniform. (with a youth brown shirt)

how hard is it to locate a cross strap?
should it be dark brown, or black? (I suspect black)
what are the qualities and attributes I should look for to ensure whatever equipment I find is correct for an HJ ensemble?

The leather colour for the HJ (14-18) was changed from brown to black in 1937:

Unkown cross strap - Hitler Youth Reiter-HJ? | Belts and Buckles

i have a cross strap which is stamped on the leather rzm with what i think is the code L2/1843/38 it`s the same as this one , but without the belt loop. does anyone know what this is for? and yez, i know i got to take pictures of my OWN stuff and post here on this forum, though i must have...

www.hj-research.com

If you are assembling a uniform display it would be easier to go for black belt/cross-strap as it's easier to find the correct shoulder straps/insignia etc.

In 1937 the colour of shorts for the HJ also changed to black:

HJ Kurze Hose (shorts) Rare early pattern . | All other HJ DJ BDM and JM clothing items

I was lucky enough to win these super rare early Hitlerjugend pair of shorts (Kurze Hose) on ebay.de 6 weeks ago for a really good price 89 euro ...thats about 100 US dollars . These early brown shorts are 10 times rarer than the black shorts . The shorts are in good condition , used but not...

www.hj-research.com

If you have any questions regarding the correct combinations of uniform/insignia etc for a specific year don't hesitate to ask.

 

[TxGauleiter]

wonderful information!
Over the weekend I was trying to source some brown shorts, but now I see they are quite uncommon.
this is all quite helpful... thank you for the links to the other threads of interest!