Length of HJ armbands

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Were hj armbands unfinished and sewn to lenght by the owner ? Just saying mine all vary in length.
 
I would assume it depends on the construction. I believe most RZM examples are the same size, and were just reworked depending on the uniform they were needed on.
 
The standard type had a length (diameter) of about 19 cm, so you had to be a very brawny guy to wear this armband without the risk of sliding down.
Most of them were not - and so they (or their mothers ;-)) had to sew the armband tighter.
Usually, the armband was sewn on the sleeve for proper fitting.

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Inside this sewn pleat you'll find perfect fresh colours...
 

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Here’s a publication mentioning sizing/proportioning of the armband design.

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The armband has the sizes mentioned as also was done in the manufacturings-regulations of the RZM and in other
sources. The total length of such armband is not mentioned, just the sizes for the width of the red-white-red, which
is obvious from the shown drawing.
 
I don't give up quickly. I finally did find the length of armbands in a price-list from
the Winkler-concern at Dresden.
The armband for SA and party-member was 13x40 cm, but available as well as 12.5x40 cm.
For the greatcoat it was 12.5x42/43 cm;
for the SS it was 13x40.5 cm, for the great-coat it was 13x43/44 cm;
for SS leaders it was 13x40.5/41 cm, for the greatcoat 23x43/44 cm

AND....for the HJ: about 11.0x40,0 cm for the one with printed swastika;
with sewn-on swastika it was 10.5x 38/40 cm
for the greatcoat it was 11.5x40/41cm.


maybe you collectors get dizzy somehow?? The hunt is on, isn't?
 
Thanks Wil ! I have two here mint with RZM tag and folded equal 21.6 cm very odd. The others w rzm are quite smaller.
 
This question is turning into an abyss or a merrygoround.Crazy? No consistency in any of the ones i own.
 
Thank you for your research Wim!

The standard type had a length (diameter) of about 19 cm

2 x 19 = 38 :biggrin1:
If theory and practise are in harmony, it is a pleasure for the ... owner ;-).
 
This question is turning into an abyss or a merrygoround.Crazy? No consistency in any of the ones i own.

I just mentioned one manufacturer. There were tens-and-tens of them, maybe one-hundred that manufactured HJ armbands.
So imagine the many variations! In most cataloques, I have, no total length is being mentioned. Nor the differences for the
various organizations. Official regulations do not mention it at all.
 
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