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    Two Hitler Youth HJ visors (Schirmmütze)

    Hello everyone


    I would like your opinion on these 2 caps HJ. One that has a red border and the other blue, the blue is a room can household communications.
    No RZM labels for these first model.
    cordially seppi72

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    more detailed pics would be better of diamond & overall caps,.though the eagles being what looks to be 1st pattern c.1927 the caps seem to be ok,.i dont know alot about these caps,.although i should being i have one,.so these are pre-RZM Dienstmutze,.they look good to me,would like some close up detailed pics of the diamonds,.if you get a chance.

    si

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    These are I believe 3rd model HJ visors ...The 1st model was tan/brown with cloth visor without piping . The 2nd Model was tan/brown with colored piping and cloth visor . The 3rd model was tan/brown with colored piping with a black visor . So far from the photos I like them but will not give a thumbs up until I can see better photos .

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    i agree with joecool

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    A black visor practically always indicates a technical unit.
    In the fall of 1934 a black lacquered visor from (Rindlack-Volleder) was introduced for HJ technical units as Motor­sportscharen, Luftsportein­hei­ten and official drivers.

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    cool,i always thought the red piping on my cap was gebeit (red) berlin,.mine is an RZM red piped motorsportscharen 1934 dienstmutze,.thanks wilhelm

    si

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    nothing wrong with these,.very nice seppi,.thanks for the pics

    si

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecool View Post
    These are I believe 3rd model HJ visors ...The 1st model was tan/brown with cloth visor without piping . The 2nd Model was tan/brown with colored piping and cloth visor . The 3rd model was tan/brown with colored piping with a black visor . So far from the photos I like them but will not give a thumbs up until I can see better photos .
    your 3rd model there often confused as leaders visor also when they are not :)

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    Nice HJ visor hoard!!!!

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