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  1. #11

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    Don't spend 600 of anything on this knife.For that kind of money you can buy a great HJ knife with Motto

  2. #12

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    Thanks operaman.

    Peter.

  3. #13

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    very wise like others have said junk thats has been given some sort of authenticity by the big dealers who can sell them for stupid money to unsuspecting individuals, leave well alone

  4. #14
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    very wise like others have said junk thats has been given some sort of authenticity by the big dealers who can sell them for stupid money to unsuspeting individuals, leave well alone
    Thats the way to go, just like Chris Ailsby, print it, and it MUST be good. Hopefully one day, one of these sellers will wear one.. in the neck !

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    so much bad stuff being accepted as good these days because its either in a book or 10 people on a forum say its good so it must be,
    the amount of times someone answers a thread with good and 4-5 will jump in straight away and agree, then when someone with actual knowledge says its rubbish they all make their excuses about angle of pic or lighting or any other rubbish, granted we all make mistakes but why people feel the need to give yes or no answers on items they have no clue on baffles me.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    because its either in a book or 10 people on a forum say its good so it must be,
    LOL, Stuart, you are SO, going to eat these words, as i used an example of this exact thing, POSTED BY YOU, that will be in an upcoming volume of International Medal Collector...
    Possibly the next issue.. But its true, of course you are right, and so am i, and we all make mistakes too.. but only greedy Hobbits like me jump on them and get the published.. (i am sure Wim Saris would like to have a few of my mistakes published too. )

    But, i left all names out in the Article. I just used the posts !

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    Thank Stuart and Metallwarenfabrik. I would have acknowledged your replies sooner, but my email notification seems to be a little awry! I certainly agree with the sentiments expressed. I must say that the maker markings seem to have been exceptionally good on the item, and it must have been a bit of a fiddle to make. I think that it went for around £250, but who wants to pay this sort of money for a fake! I was fortunate not to purchase this thanks to the views expressed on this forum, but was myself caught out the other day when I purchased what I thought was a genuine Air Crew Europe Star at an antiques fair. These are notorious for fakery, and I thought that I had a thorough knowledge of the different types of fakes, having handled a few genuine ones and several different types of fake, which are commonly for sale in antique fairs advertised as genuine items. When I got my purchase home and compared it with a genuine one, I saw that this was in fact a new type of fake to me, not having the flaws commonly found in other fakes, but differing from a genuine one in a couple of minor ways, which nevertheless I should have spotted, had I not been so excited at finding what I thought was a genuine item for change. I wasn't cheap either, so I think keeping ahead of the faker requires constant vigilance. Thanks, Peter.

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    as i stated jo we all make mistakes im sure you have made a few in your time too, but would like a pm about the one you mention above rather than try and make me look bad in a open forum but hey thats your choice, ive never pretended to be an expert and would never claim to be, im just another collector trying to learn the best way to not get caught by asking the right questions of the right people

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    Hermann Historica has one of these in their act. 64. lot 7782. start at E350. says its a USA lot. the Emil Vous packet has " Berliner Olypiade" printed in red. they have a few HJ daggers , one of them 7786 again a USA lot appears to have the diamond glued in . I could not down load the photos from this site otherwise I would have put them up.

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    For that sort of money a collector can get a lot of items that don't need to be defended. The item should defend itself.

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