my NPEA STRAPS

[Paul Ayerst]

HERE are my NPEA shoulder straps enjoy

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[WIDUKIND]

HERE are my NPEA shoulder straps enjoy

Hi Paul
congratulations. Does the shoulder strap on the left come from Emig ?

 

[Paul Ayerst]

just bought it from GERMANY can't remember who lol

 

[WIDUKIND]

I love them all....!!!.You begin to be dangerous for me....LOL

 

[Paul Ayerst]

haha I only collect post 37 straps and only ones that are different so I should be no threat

 

[Gefolgschaft]

BRAVO!!! Great group of NPEA Paul, I love them.

 

[Paul Ayerst]

thanks DARRIN that one just arrived today and makes a nice trio

 

[Joe B]

Great additions Paul . Nice to see the comparison between machine woven and the machine embroiderd versions .

 

[Herbert Norkus]

I think the strap in the middle could be a late item from NPEA Oranienstein because of the yellow-red cord.

 

[Gefolgschaft]

I think the strap in the middle could be a late item from NPEA Oranienstein because of the yellow-red cord.

This is a Jungmann Gruppenführer rank device. See the Saris reference in the chapter on NPEA straps.

 

[WIDUKIND]

I think the strap in the middle could be a late item from NPEA Oranienstein because of the yellow-red cord.

please, Look at the thread of April 16th, 2011 http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f15/early-npea-strap-4878/#post36113

 

[Herbert Norkus]

please, Look at the thread of April 16th, 2011 http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f15/early-npea-strap-4878/#post36113

This is what i mean. Am I wrong with the yellow-red cord for Oranienstein for this strap?

 

[Garry]

Hi

Yes, that type of cord denoted a Jungmann-Gruppenführer as the guys have already said. The word used for these insignia back then was 'Gradabzeichen' (not 'Rangabzeichen' as stated on Eric's scan) and they were the same in all NPEA

Jungmann-Gruppenführer: red/yellow twisted cord
Jungmann-Zugführer: 1.8cm yellow band with red central line
Jungmann-Hundertschaftsführer: 1.8cm red band with yellow central line

You might possibly be thinking about the colours of strap on the Geländeanzug used to differentiate between the different NPEA?

Full Members can access comprehensive information on NPEA insignia HERE (UM 1940 March 1st, p34) which explains things in full including the insignia for the Anstaltsleiter, Erzieher etc (obviously the text is in German)

 

[Herbert Norkus]

Thanks, Garry! Now I understand.

 

[WIDUKIND]

Hi,
I know where you read this, there are a lot of misinformation with WIKIPEDIA isn't it?.

Die offizielle Bezeichnung der Schüler war Jungmann (Plural Jungmannen). Während der Ferien bestand Dienstpflicht bei den Organisationen der Hitler-Jugend am heimatlichen Wohnort. Deshalb entsprach die generelle Ausgehuniform der Bekleidung dieser Jugendorganisation: 10–14 Jahre alt: Uniform des Deutschen Jungvolks, 14–18 Jahre alt: Uniform der Hitler-Jugend. Die Dienstgrade waren die gleichen. Ein Jungmann, Alter 12 Jahre, war daheim in der Regel „Jungenschaftsführer“ und trug eine rot-weiße Kordel.

 

[Herbert Norkus]

Hi Widukind!

No! I´ve got the Book where these Straps from Oranienstein are in. This Board with the straps (from your Link!) is from the book "Des Teufels Kadett" and because of that I thought the yellow-red cord has to be from Oranienstein. My Mistake!

I never get my Informations from Wikipedia It often seems to be wrong. I rather read lots of Books at home. That´s better.

Regards
Herbert