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Does anyone know what the exact meaning of the event was? I can`t find any mention of an event in March 1931 in Visselhövede.
Understanding what the event was, may help understanding what a Hitler-Jugendtag was, in 1931. That`s the part I am having trouble wrapping my head around.
Any help would be appreciated.

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Ah yes, you asked me about this a while back but I got caught up in the upgrade and didn't get a chance to look into it. Although I can't find anything on that specific location either, I do have a book from 1938 which chronicles the development of the HJ in Niedersachsen (particularly Südhannover-Braunschweig) from 1928 onwards. The book says that beginning in March 1931 there was a marked period of increased organisational change and an attendant increase in rallies etc in the north of Niedersachsen. The book doesn't mention the term "Hitler-Jugendtag" in connection with any of the many rallies held around the time of the badge or indeed before or after it (up to Jan 1933) so I can only assume that it wasn't an RJF edict to call the event that i.e. there was no Reich-wide HJ event by this name but rather it was something approved locally in Gau Osthannover.
 
Must be ortsbedinkt. :yo: And a speaking event, or some one-day event. Unlike other events that stretched 2-3 days and longer.
 
I imagine that as an local promotional event to gain new HJ members. Typically misspelled for that time ;-). Correct would be: Hitler-Jugend-Tag (later: Hitlerjugend-Tag).
 
No, correct German is indeed Jugendtag.

And you will find all manner of abbreviations and acronyms and hyphenated words that shouldn't be, and that are not, but need to be. in this case, there is no error, it's correct German.
Like the ARBEITER-JUGEND badges, found with and without a hyphen and many more too.

Local event too I would think. No idea where to look for more info. Nothing in the archives I have searched so far.
 
Yes, the place only had a population of around 2500 back then so it's gonna be tough to find anything. I used to have a Reichssieger set for a boy from a tiny place in Nordfriesland and thought I would get absolutely nowhere with researching it but I got really lucky and was able to get the name of a Heimatforscher there and he helped me out. Might be worth giving the Bürgerbüro there a bell to see if they can give you contact info for someone?

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It is also a "selected badge" and not a thought out event-specific design.
There are a few early tinnies that Hoffstätter made, that make use of identical parts of the same design. This one below is one.
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So it is a "catalog tinnie" a design that a customer saw, and said "Yes, I want that design, but just change the dates and town name" So no real thought went into it, like other events.
Time will tell, the research never ends anyway, so just another badge to put on the ongoing research list.
 

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Hi Jo,

of course is "Jugendtag" a correct German word, you are right. The question is here what they intended to say.
a) Hitlers Jugentag (Hitler's Youth Day) - then it's absolutely correct, or
b) Tag der Hitlerjugend oder Hitler-Jugend (Day of Hitler Youth), then it is a three-part-compound (Dreifachkompositum) and (actually) has to be hyphenated twice (Durchkopplung). At least in theory :lol:.


Jo Rivett said:
And you will find all manner of abbreviations and acronyms and hyphenated words that shouldn't be, and that are not, but need to be.
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I completely with you on this one.
When you look at a period city map, you'll find a Münchnerstraße instead of Münchner Straße, and at the same time a Herbert Norkusstraße instead of Herbert-Norkus-Straße.
I would say, 90 percent of the couldn't deal with this hyphenation rule of Duden.
It's a bit like today when compound nouns were torn apart and the "Deppenleerzeichen" rules :sneaky2:.
 
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