Looking for help on Identification/Authentication of HJ Uniform set

[Glishman1]

*These are the only pictures I have available right now*

Hello everyone, I came across this grouping through a friend and I’m looking for some opinions on the authenticity of these items.

I was able to see this in person and can say that each piece showed clear signs of age. As for the belt and cap, I am aware that the belt has a clear makers mark on the back and the cap has an odd inside lining with a striped design. The lining shows a very prominent sweat stain from heavy wear. The uniform has a cut down poster board propped inside of it that has been used to keep its shape or to display it that can be seen in the photos. The whistle has initials carved into the mouth piece though I do not recall seeing any makers marks. I was unable to see the reverse of the pins both on the tunic and the cap to find any marks on those. The photos I provided of the utensil show all info I can provide at this time.

I understand that these pictures may not be enough to provide any definitive answers (I should be getting more soon) but any input is greatly appreciated!

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[B-RAD]

Welcome to the forum Glishman 1 - I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be able to help you

 

[bertl59]

Welcome Glishman 1,
Your analysis brings certain positive and negative elements.
At first glance the jacket looks good to me but is it LW blue or very dark blue?
She wears shoulder boards from LW - helper which look authentic. The armband is good.
The cap is of the civilian model and the striped lining testifies to this as well as the closure system on the front.
The belt is probably the Whermacht model but also good but not for this uniform, the buckle is OK.
I know the NSDAP pennants or the printed Reich colors but I have personally never encountered a printed HJ pennant (but this is only my personal experience), it probably also exists.
Concerning the dagger I think it is authentic but I am not a specialist on the subject.The whistle cord is OK I think but from another political organization
I hope I was useful to you.

 

[mkholst]

Welcome to the best forum for HJ effects

I would say that the knife appears to be completely original - a RZM M7/37 Robert Klaas (37 is a bit blurry in the picture, but it must be a 37).

I think bertl59 has assessed the other effects in the best way.

Michael

 

[Glishman1]

Welcome Glishman 1,
Your analysis brings certain positive and negative elements.
At first glance the jacket looks good to me but is it LW blue or very dark blue?
She wears shoulder boards from LW - helper which look authentic. The armband is good.
The cap is of the civilian model and the striped lining testifies to this as well as the closure system on the front.
The belt is probably the Whermacht model but also good but not for this uniform, the buckle is OK.
I know the NSDAP pennants or the printed Reich colors but I have personally never encountered a printed HJ pennant (but this is only my personal experience), it probably also exists.
Concerning the dagger I think it is authentic but I am not a specialist on the subject.The whistle cord is OK I think but from another political organization
I hope I was useful to you.

Hi Bert, I greatly appreciate all of the info. In reference to the jacket, it appears to be a very dark blue. I decided to go back and grab the lot earlier. There is an RZM tag inside of the tunic that I found today when analyzing the pieces more closely. I think I will update this post with some better pictures now that I have taken some. You absolutely were an incredible help and again, I greatly appreciate your help

 

[Glishman1]

Welcome to the best forum for HJ effects

I would say that the knife appears to be completely original - a RZM M7/37 Robert Klaas (37 is a bit blurry in the picture, but it must be a 37).

I think bertl59 has assessed the other effects in the best way.

Michael

Thank you very much for the input. You are correct, it is a 37 though the 7 does appear to have been stamped a bit lighter than the other digits. I decided to purchase the lot today and after looking at the jacket closer I noticed an RZM tag. I am going to add some Bette pictures soon if you’d like to take a look. Thanks for the welcome!