Motor-HJ sleeve badge with strange silver braid
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It's difficult to say much about patches like these. As you can clearly see, the cord was added later. A direct attribution isn't possible in my opinion. It could be from that period, but it could also have been added after 1945. Who can prove it? If it's not much more expensive than a regular Motor Hitler Youth patch, you could certainly buy it. But I wouldn't pay a lot of money for it.
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Yes, that is odd. The lowest-ranking of the Motor-HJ badges but with the addition of that unofficial braid? Doesn't make sense but as Steve says, if it isn't much more expensive than a standard Motor-HJ formation badge I would grab it as a nice oddity. Who knows? Could well be a wartime modification.
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The only "similarity" I have is the prototype in the following link...
Prototype Motor HJ sleeve badge by Hausmuster Thiele & Steinert, Berlin 68
Prototype Motor HJ sleeve badge by Hausmuster Thiele & Steinert, Berlin 68
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Very interesting. I'm intrigued now. I have never seen this badge described in the period literature. Essentially it is the 1933-1936 Motor-HJ/official driver patch but with that extra outside ring.
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Thanks for posting them UTH. Well, we have both the 1933-36 and the 1937- versions of the badge with this braid around the outside now so something just doesn't feel right. As I say, there is nothing in the primary literature about a badge like this. The RJF regulations show only three types of the Motor-HJ badges. Perhaps there was a proposal to introduce such a badge hence the Hausmuster posted by Bertl above but then it was abandoned and never actually introduced. This would put the other two badges in this thread under total suspicion as the base badges i.e. without the braid are the type introduced in 1937 and therefore after the production of the Hausmuster. That doesn't make sense.