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Hello everyone, I would like to get your opinion on a recent purchase of mine. I bought this combo together but i get the idea that the hat is not the correct type of hat to go with a BDM kletterjacke. Please let me know what you think of it. Thanks,Andreas.

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hello ANDREAS
I see you managed to make a post . It is a beautiful and good BDM jacket, this type of cap was worn very early, before 1933 by the youth movements but not by the BDM. I have a similar one but I have seen a few other examples, still without insignia (this type of fabric badge was introduced in January 1940)
 
Pimpf359 said:
This side cap is only known to me as an early HJ.
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It's quite interesting that this is a early H.J. side cap and not a B.D.M. cap in any way like the seller at Ciney told me ,while at the same time indicating that he is one of the organisers of a big militaria show in the Netherlands. So I presume I payed more than it's actually worth ,sure a combo fetches a better price than 2 unrelated singles .
 
The Kletterjacke looks good but the cap definitely isn't a BDM item because a sidecap was never part of the official BDM/JM uniform. I don't know what the cap is that you have there but it isn't the standard HJ/DJ summer cap. It's made of the wrong material (the HJ/DJ summer cap was made of the same material as the HJ brown shirt) and has a cloth diamond that wasn't introduced until 1940. In the early period the DJ wore a black cap but these were phased out in 1937 after the introduction (in 1936) of the brown HJ Lagermütze (later designated as "Sommermütze der HJ/DJ").

I've seen absolute BS being spouted by militaria show organisers over in the US too over the years so it seems par for the course for a lot of these guys. "Anything for a sale!".
 
Hello crack
yes I do know the standard H.J.side cap. As I do understand is this an early- 1933 or earlier side cap , so says Pimpf 359 . Does anyone know what kind of money they are going for? I may will contact the seller but therefor I like to know what I have -also price wise , because this is definitely not what I was told by him.
Thanks for the info so far .
Andreas
 
enthusiast said:
Hello crack
yes I do know the standard H.J.side cap. As I do understand is this an early- 1933 or earlier side cap , so says Pimpf 359 . Does anyone know what kind of money they are going for? I may will contact the seller but therefor I like to know what I have -also price wise , because this is definitely not what I was told by him.
Thanks for the info so far .
Andreas
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Hi Andreas,
I'll leave it up to Pimpf359 to answer but I'm certainly not aware of items like this being worn by the Hitler Youth in the early period (pre-1936).
 
OK, this is not good, I thought there was an easy answer , but it seems like I will have to look into this now with more energy. Tomorrow I will have some time and I think I will post this side cap in a few other forems . The seller - he also runs an online shop- told me that I do have a live long guaranty . So I like to know exactly what I got here before I go back to him.
Thanks for your input.
Andreas
 

DJ cap? | Headgear

Hello gentlemen, Could You help, is this a DJ cap? Thanks in advance for Your replies. Reards, Anton
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The caps are of the same material but in black
 
enthusiast said:
OK, this is not good, I thought there was an easy answer , but it seems like I will have to look into this now with more energy. Tomorrow I will have some time and I think I will post this side cap in a few other forems . The seller - he also runs an online shop- told me that I do have a live long guaranty . So I like to know exactly what I got here before I go back to him.
Thanks for your input.
Andreas
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To be fair Andreas, the answer is easy. This is definitely not an early HJ cap and nor is it a BDM item. The RJF and RZM regulations are very clear on this. If you can send it back to the seller you should. I can guarantee you that he will not be able to provide any evidence that the cap is HJ or BDM. All he will be able to do is tell you a story.
 
Garry said:
To be fair Andreas, the answer is easy. This is definitely not an early HJ cap and nor is it a BDM item. The RJF and RZM regulations are very clear on this. If you can send it back to the seller you should. I can guarantee you that he will not be able to provide any evidence that the cap is HJ or BDM. All he will be able to do is tell you a story.
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Thank you.
 
Hello Garry
The seller agreed to take cap back . So I'm happy . It was frustrating because he assure me it would be a BDM cap and very seldom. Right , I woulndn't have bought it but he told me he's a H.J. collector himself, runs an online shop , gives a life time guarantee and some more I don't want to say now not to reveal his identity .
Thanks for your staight clear answer.
Andreas
 
That's good news Andreas. Glad to hear that things worked out well.
 
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