Can anyone id these lanyards ?

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thanks for any info hj or bdm ?

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Hi
The red/white Kameradschaftsführer

The red Bannführer

these two are from the HJ
mfg Brian

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Would you be able to post the lengths Aircrew? Assuming that the Kameradschaftsführer lanyard is normal size that would make the Bannführer lanyard way too short.
 
I have the same with label..... I once read that one for it "Bannführer im Stab der RJF"

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Ah, yes. Just checked and in a bunch of regulations dating to 1939/40 the short red one is described as being for 'Stellenleiter in Bannstäben' Brian. One loop went over the left breast pocket button and the other straight across to the top jacket button. Here's an excerpt from the regulations:

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