D.J. Winter Blouse

[enthusiast]

Hello everyone
I just acquired this D.J. Winter Blouse. It seems to me to be genuine . As you can see on the photos it had been stripped. I would like to replace the missing buttons , shoulder boards, triangle and maybe armband and anything else missing, badges. I have never done this before and ask myself if it is " appropriate " to do so or should I just leave it like it is . What is your opinion ? But either way I would be interested to know what exactly had been stripped . Would anyone be able to tell me the year this blouse was worn / made ? There were 2 shoulder boards and and slightly to the front of each of them on the chest side there are horizontal cut marks , about 10mm wide , indicating there was something else cut off. Any idea ? So far I can't see if there was an armband attached . Should there have been one ?
There seems to be a different style of winter blouse with bigger collars and a collar closure with 2 buttons under them. Would they be the same just from different manufactures or a different year of manufacture ?
I would be very happy if I could get some info about this blouse. Thank you.

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[bertl59]

Hi
It's a beautiful HJ jacket in its original condition. You can see the outline of the triangle and the shoulder straps and their buttons. There are, of course, a few buttons to replace at the bottom of the sleeves.
It must have had an armband.
The type of buttons is the same for the entire uniform (with RZM on the back and different sizes depending on whether they are for the sleeves or the collar).
I advise you to buy some "used" fabric insignia for a good overall look.
You should know that the vast majority of uniforms have been reassembled.
I hope this helps you make your choice
. Regards

 

[enthusiast]

Thank you very much , that is helping me big time.
Andreas

 

[Strumble69]

What the jacket could of looked like. There are hundreds of different variations of what could of gone onto this jacket. But its 100% original and was HJ as it had an armband.

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[WernerBamberg]

I think the answers above would fit my answers.
But!... I would restore it, it is no shame..

You are talking about Dj, but perhaps if you look close at the rzm etiket you will see ''hj-dj winterbluse'' written there.

As i can judge there are signs of 2 removed schoulderboards!
DJ only used 1, HJ used 2, so if what i am thinking to see is true, then i woulds restore it to HJ.

Perhaps if you look well you can see some discoloration at the left sleeve when an arnband would have been placed?

 

[WernerBamberg]

P.S. the ones with the different collars (2 bottons above) or just the big collar which goes at the back.. i think they are more early versions.
I have one at my collection and it has the early green RZM etiket.

 

[enthusiast]

Hello again
First at all -I had a closer look and found inside the stamp : D.J. Blusenstoff. All the buttons except 3 at the arm sleeves are RZM 17 Lüdenscheid. The small cuts below the collar ties were done when someone cut off the loops for the shoulder boards .
Now , I do have another D.J. winter blouse , the same like Werner describes , a cross closer below the collar with a green tag which had been most likely restored before I bought it . I will post it later in a new thread if I find the time . I will leave it to your scrutiny to decide how that job was done.
I read as well that these blouses were earlier models.

 

[WernerBamberg]

This is mine.
As far as i know it came from a flemisch HJ unit, but it is unused

DJ stamp, HJ DJ etiket

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[enthusiast]

Sorry , made a mistake about the buttons , not Assmann RZM 17 , they are RZM Lüdenscheid.
I checked the stamp which says only : D.J. Blusenstoff . But that doesn't mean that it wasn't worn by the H.J. as well. Because -you are right Werner - there seemed to be 2 shoulder boards on this tunic originally .
Just for better understanding . I would need shoulder board buttons with a Bann number , black shoulderboards ( with a corresponding Bann number ), corresponding district triangle and an armband. Is that correct ?