Help in identifying a HJ knife from Ernst Pack & Sohn

[ankroma]

Good morning, dear friends. I would like to ask for your help regarding a situation I found myself in the other day. I saw a knife on the Internet pretending to be Pak and his children. The condition is, in my opinion, one of the best I have ever seen. But here's the question: could this knife be an excellent copy of the original knife? It looks suspiciously good. I would be very grateful with all my heart for any help you could give me! And if anyone has literature on HJ knives and can take a photo of the original knife, to this guy, I would be infinitely grateful!

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[Garry]

Hi there,

I used Google translate and amended your post but please post in English in future please. Thanks.

What makes you think that this knife is a copy? That Pack maker mark would correspond to 1934/5 and I don't see anything on the photos that is obviously wrong.

There is a huge collection of Ernst Pack knives here for comparison purposes:

Ernst Pack u. Söhne HJ Knife Collection | Hitler Youth knife and dagger

The early Pack HJ's are not often seen, and when they do come up, they are usually in a well used condition. Same can be said for the 'regulation' versions, again not seen that often. This has to be one of, if not the best, collection of Pack HJ's. The collection covers all variants, from the...

www.hj-research.com

 

[ankroma]

Good day! Thank you very much for your reply! Sorry, I thought I posted in English. I have an auto translator in my browser, so I must have made a mistake. Regarding the knife. The thing is that when I bought HJ knives before, I usually searched the Internet for exactly the same knife and compared all the details. If everything matched, then I calmly made the purchase, knowing that I was buying the original. In this case, after a long search, I still have not found exactly the same knife. Something was always wrong. Or different sheaths, or a different stamp ... that's why I am turning to you for help. And I hope you can help me. I will be very grateful for your help with all my heart!

 

[ankroma]

For example, here is a knife that seems to be most similar to the one I have displayed. But the sheath and leather hanger are clearly different. And so I want to understand whether this could take place in principle in this case?

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[Garry]

I see what you mean. I can't really assist any further as I don't have the necessary knowledge on Pack knives but hopefully another member may know more.

 

[WernerBamberg]

The condition of that knife is good, but why worry about that?
It looks like a fine original to me, with perhaps a replaced leather buffer pad, but not sure.
The scabbard (one runner inside) is also what you like to see in combination with an early knife.