Hitler Youth HJ Trumpet banner

[yellow12]

hello,

i got this trumpet banner last week from a neighbor .

He told me that's came from his father .

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[Garry]

It is in remarkable condition. Really does look almost brand-new - which is worrying..

 

[B-RAD]

Did you UV test it ? its not 100 % but might give you a more info

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

bevor i get it , it was washed with chemikal new laundry detergent .......

Therefor it is not 100% UV negativ . But different to positiv ..........

 

[wilhelm saris]

they already washed with chemicals at least since 1938.
Uniforms by the lots went to laundries, where they were
washed and so in many occasions the UV is of no use at all!
I will not further deepen out this subject as it is crap anyway.

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

Neighbor told me today that he also know a old bugle and some HJ armbands .

Will see to get this from next days ..................

 

[Mike 41]

Over at WAF where this banner was posted someone questioned the RZM tag saying that it was not correct for this item.... can anyone here comment on that?
Mike

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

i have made some new pictures by better light :

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[yellow12]

Hello,

i visit my neighbor today . He give me the rest of HJ things from his father and fathers brother ...........

He handed me over a bugle 2 armbands HJ members badge and a Leistungsabzeichen in black . This Banner looks like second Mod. with vertical Withe stripe.........

In the next days i must take better pictures.

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[Pimpf359]

Somehow I do not like these trumpets banners either. There have been quite a few HJ and DJ Banner of such good condition in the last couple of years. Some even with RZM label. Either there was a tailor find or they were copied in large pieces. I'm looking forward to better pictures of the armbands and the second banner. The bugle is certainly a fair bit.

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

here some new pitures by daylight :

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[Mike 41]

Markus, did the RZM tag fall off?
Mike

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

im talking from two banners .

1.mod.and 2. mod.

On second mod. are RZM tag :

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[crack]

The banners look great (possibly too clean and "new" looking?) and this type of fringe definitely was used but I often think it must be easy to knock these up and flog them on for a huge profit and I'm sure that does happen. The RZM tag is irrelevant to be honest but there was a lot of variation with these banners and I'm really tempted to say that yours are genuine but I dunno yellow12.. what is your gut feeling? You know your neighbour better than any of us.

 

[yellow12]

Hello,

i know him about over 20 years and know also his father ..... but he is did in the 1990th and i can't speek with him .

Sometimes later he has noticed that i'm interest in 3.Reich collecting and told me from the things in a old linen closet .

But for 3weeks i cam across him and i ask him about . He told me that i can hae all what he find .........

It comes 2 trumpet banners , 2 armbands . A bugle and a members badge with HJ Leistungsabzeichen/black .

I don't know many about HJ cloth things , was not my field .

I thought it was a Standarten flag . Sorry for me bad english.........

but i think all items are genuin .