I completed my HJ uniform recently and after studying and learning more about the organization structure of the HJ which is an organization I haven't studied as vociferously as others. I realized there it is possible that my HJ shirt has been potential tampered with since the war?
The Obergebiet/Gebiet for my uniform is Süd Württemberg and that triangle is obviously original to the uniform I can tell from holding enough original uniforms and seeing their insignia, both original and original post war applied...
The shoulder strap buttons look like they are at least original thread but the straps themselves I'm not sure? Since the Gefolgschaft is 20 and the Bann 40 and while Bann 40 is in the Baden/Württemberg area, it is technically Obergebiet/Gebiet Süd Baden I believe? No Süd Württemberg as my original triangle indicates... So either someone remove the straps at some point and they just put Bann 40 straps on it without regards to whether it was absolutely correct? Or it's some weird period thing because they are in the same area and there was some cross over in the deep south of Germany?
Maybe it is some weird thing? Or originally it had no shoulder straps? I know some HJ uniforms didn't or perhaps it was originally from these units in Süd Württemberg?
Gefolgschaft 20/180
Gefolgschaft 20/401
Gefolgschaft 20/433
Here is my uniform link below.. maybe I'll have to find different shoulder straps? But I'm reticent to do that because it could be some weird odd ball period thing? Because that uniform looks awfully untouched when I got it...
www.hj-research.com
Thanks gentlemen for your tthoughtsand regards!
Adam
The Obergebiet/Gebiet for my uniform is Süd Württemberg and that triangle is obviously original to the uniform I can tell from holding enough original uniforms and seeing their insignia, both original and original post war applied...
The shoulder strap buttons look like they are at least original thread but the straps themselves I'm not sure? Since the Gefolgschaft is 20 and the Bann 40 and while Bann 40 is in the Baden/Württemberg area, it is technically Obergebiet/Gebiet Süd Baden I believe? No Süd Württemberg as my original triangle indicates... So either someone remove the straps at some point and they just put Bann 40 straps on it without regards to whether it was absolutely correct? Or it's some weird period thing because they are in the same area and there was some cross over in the deep south of Germany?
Maybe it is some weird thing? Or originally it had no shoulder straps? I know some HJ uniforms didn't or perhaps it was originally from these units in Süd Württemberg?
Gefolgschaft 20/180
Gefolgschaft 20/401
Gefolgschaft 20/433
Here is my uniform link below.. maybe I'll have to find different shoulder straps? But I'm reticent to do that because it could be some weird odd ball period thing? Because that uniform looks awfully untouched when I got it...
My finally completed HJ bust. Bann 40 / Gefolgschaft 20 | All other HJ DJ BDM and JM clothing items
Here is my Bann 40 / Gefolgschaft 20 display with original Sud Württemberg HJ triangle. which I finally completed. It is all original stuff, except a couple things I haven't found. -The original stuff- *Bann 40 / Gefolgschaft 20 HJ shirt with shoulder strap and multi part hankenkreuz hj...
www.hj-research.com
Thanks gentlemen for your tthoughtsand regards!
Adam