Looking for information on Bannführer Mahlmann

[cmahlmann]

Looking for information on Bannführer Mahlmann (Gebiet 8, Niedersachsen, corresponding to NSDAP-Gau 33, Hannover, Braunschweig) [Arcinsys] (Not sure if its Bann 255 or Bann 447 or something totally different)

1943 - Stadtamt für Leibesübungen und Jugendpflege (Dezernent Stadtrat Schwager), Leiter: Bannführer Mahlmann (HJ). Städtische Badeanstalten Dezernent: Bannführer Mahlmann (HJ). Leiter : Stadtamtmann Breier, Goseriede 7 zerstört. [ENGLISH: 1943 - City Office for Physical Exercises and Youth Welfare (Department Head: City Councilor Schwager), Head: Bannführer Mahlmann (HJ). Municipal Bathhouses, Department Head: Bannführer Mahlmann (HJ). Head: City Officer Breier, Goseriede 7 destroyed.]

Originally, and for a long time, the city's sports department was organizationally located within the School Office. During the Nazi era, the status of sports changed: From 1939 onward, the City Office for Physical Education and Youth Welfare became independent. Hitler Youth Bannführer Mahlmann became the head of this office.

After the Second World War, sports were initially again administered within the School Office, now as the Department for Physical Education and Youth Welfare under City Gymnastics Councilor Heinrich Kabus, who remained head of this department until 1955.

The only other thing I've been able to locate is the listing for the following record (but not the record itself): "Kinz, S. 63f.; Mahlmann, Bericht vom 11. November 1940, NSAW, 12 A Neu, 13 h/19596." This report was cited in a book called Hitler Youth, by Michael H. Kater (PDF copy here), but I haven't been able to read the report.

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[Garry]

Hi there and welcome to the forum.

In my project HERE I see that a Mahlmann was initially the Jungbannführer of Jungbann 250:

Jungbann 250 Goslar, HJ-Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen

1937: Mahlmann.
1938: Oberfähnleinführer Mahlmann until Sept (then Abteilungsleiter Leibeserziehung Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen)

By 1939 Mahlmann had been promoted to Hauptgefolgschaftsführer and by July 1940 to Oberstammführer. At this time his appointment was Leiter der Hauptabteilung II (responsible for all aspects of physical training and development) within Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen.

During 1941 he held the same rank and appointment but in this year he appears to "disappear" before reappearing in 1943. I would assume that he was with the Wehrmacht during that period? In Feb 1943 he was installed as the temporary Gausportführer NSRL (vice Kurt Brasche who had been called up for military service). At this time Mahlmann also took on the responsibilities of the Sportbeauftragter der Gauleitung and was also Dezernent für die staatliche Sportaufsicht und öffentliche Sportpflege. He appears to have been promoted to Bannführer at some time between 1941 and 1943. Mahlmann was still the Gausportführer in July 1944.

I hope this helps with your research

Cheers

Garry

 

[cmahlmann]

Hi there and welcome to the forum.

In my project HERE I see that Mahlmann was initially the Jungbannführer of Jungbann 250:

Jungbann 250 Goslar, HJ-Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen

1937: Mahlmann.
1938: Oberfähnleinführer Mahlmann until Sept (then Abteilungsleiter Leibeserziehung Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen)

By 1939 Mahlmann had been promoted to Hauptgefolgschaftsführer and by July 1940 to Oberstammführer. At this time his appointment was Leiter der Hauptabteilung II (responsible for all aspects of physical training and development) within Gebiet 8 Niedersachsen.

During 1941 he held the same rank and appointment but in this year he appears to "disappear" before reappearing in 1943. I would assume that he was with the Wehrmacht during that period? In Feb 1943 he was installed as the temporary Gausportführer NSRL (vice Kurt Brasche who had been called up for military service). At this time Mahlmann also took on the responsibilities of the Sportbeauftragter der Gauleitung and was also Dezernent für die staatliche Sportaufsicht und öffentliche Sportpflege. He appears to have been promoted to Bannführer at some time between 1941 and 1943. Mahlmann was still the Gausportführer in July 1944.

I hope this helps with your research

Cheers

Garry

Wow Garry! Thank you so much! Do you have any sources or images you can share either here or privately? I've been having the hardest time tracking this part of his life down in any way.

Also, have you seen any mention of the first name? I am pretty certain this is my great grandfather Karl-Heinz Mahlmann (sometimes called Carl-Heinz) who was born in 1907, played for SV Eintracht Braunschweig, Victoria Hamburg SV and HSV in the late 20's through the mid 1930's. The materials I found only list the last name Mahlmann, but with him being the Gausportfuhrer and my grandfather joining the NDSAP on May 1, 1937 (membership number 4,055,725), this seems to line up with this Mahlmann being him. Also, I see that he was at Jungbann 250, but do you see any other Bann numbers of Gebiet numbers associated with him?

Finally, not sure if this helps in any way, but his dad was named Ernst Mahlmann, born in Eisenach / Hannover and he was a leader at the railroad and the family was also in the grain business in Braunschweig, Bremen and Hamburg. Hoping to find more or some documentation! Thanks again!!

 

[Garry]

Hi,

Ah, now that I see the full name of the person you are looking for I see that there was a misapprehension on my part. My apologies for that. I do see a Mahlmann in the appointments that I previously mentioned but after a bit more digging I see that the Mahlmann who became k.-Gausportführer was Günther Mahlmann. Clearly that guy can't be your great-grandfather.

The sports administration connection of the Mahlmann who went from Jungbannführer 250 up to the Gebiet staff makes the jump to the assumption that this is the same Mahlmann who became k.-Gausportführer in 1943 logical but this could, of course, equally be two different men with the same surname.

It's annoying that I can't find a christian name for the Mahlmann who was Jungbannführer 250. This is odd because youth leaders at this level were usually referred to by their full name. However, due to the sports connection I would say that there are good grounds for believing that both the Jungbannführer 250 and the later k.-Gausportführer Südhannover-Braunschweig were the same person: Günther Mahlmann.

Sorry I couldn't help further but if I do find anything more I'll let you know. If you find more information it would be great to read it here. Good luck!

 

[cmahlmann]

Ah, interesting. That was Carl-Heinz's younger brother Gunter. So I wonder if Gunter is one of the Mahlmann's in question and Carl-Heinz is the other.

 

[Garry]

Definitely an interesting one this. You may well be right. I'll have another go at finding a christian name for Jungbannführer Mahlmann.

 

[cmahlmann]

Gunther Mahlmann ended up being the youth coach at HSV and then the head coach for a time under his brother (my great grandfather Carl-Heinz (Karl-Heinz) who was president of HSV from 1951 - 1965, so this potentially lines up. I wonder what my great grandfather did after he registered for the party in 1937 if he wasn't here and a part of this. I've also seen a record somewhere for a Friedrich Mahlmann who was in Gau 38 / Gebiet 9 but I can't recall where I saw it.

Category	Gunther or Karl-Heinz Mahlmann	Friedrich Mahlmann
Role	Bannführer, Gausportführer (HJ)	Kreisführer, Nazi sports (NSRL/DRL)
Gau	Gau 33 – Süd-Hannover–Braunschweig	Gau 38 – Westfalen-Nord
Gebiet	Gebiet 8 – Niedersachsen	Gebiet 9 – Westfalen-Nord
HQ	Hannover (Arnswalder Str. 7/8)	Münster (Diepenbrockstraße 30)
Banne	250, 255, 256, 257, 445–447, 452–453, etc.	260 (Detmold), 135 (Minden), 281 (Paderborn), etc.
Archive Reference	NSAW, 12 A Neu, 13 h/19596.231 (Wolfenbüttel)	Named in Rosenland journal (Lueke 2016); LAV NRW
Postwar Role	Unknown (likely faded from public record after 1944)	Survived; nominated Röhr for honors in 1961

 

[Garry]

I've found more information on Carl-Heinz (children, career). I'll send it to you now

Carl-Heinz had a business career during the TR period and is very unlikely to have had the time to devote to a career in the Hitler Youth. Günther Mahlmann is the more likely candidate for that . We know that the Gausportführer was Günther Mahlmann (post 4 above) so it seems very likely that he is the same Mahlmann who was previously on the staff of HJ-Gebiet Niedersachen and before that Jungbannführer 250.

 

[cmahlmann]

Hi Garry,

This has been incredibly helpful — thank you again for digging in and helping piece this together. You've given me far more clarity than I expected to find, and your insight connecting Günther Mahlmann through the HJ-Gebiet roles into the Gausportführer position really helps solidify a timeline.

The career distinction between Carl-Heinz and Günther during the Third Reich also makes a lot of sense, especially given what I’ve found about Carl-Heinz’s football and business roles from 1935 onward. That being said, I still wonder what I might be able to find about Carl-Heinz's Nazi affiliations. All I have is his membership number stating that Carl-Heinz Mahlmann joined the Nazi Party on May 1, 1937 (membership number 4,055,725).

Quick question — I’d love to document all of this properly in a family history I'm compiling. Are any of the records you referenced (e.g., staff rosters for Jungbann 250, Gebiet Niedersachsen appointments, Gausportführer listings, or the city sports office records in Hannover) accessible through named archives, publications, or scanned images you could point me to? Even internal project sources or scanned pages would help a ton — I’d be happy to cite your forum or project if that’s appropriate

Appreciate all your time and help — this is a part of my family’s story that’s been very hard to trace, and your insights are making it come alive.

Best,
Chris

In other news, I did find the first photo ever of his father Heinrich Mahlmann who was Wachtmeister Mahlmann in Brunswick Hussar Regiment 17 in the early 1900's, so the research continues!

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[Garry]

Hi Chris,

I sent you a PM just now

 

[cmahlmann]

the Mahlmann who became k.-Gausportführer was Günther Mahlmann. Clearly that guy can't be your great-grandfather.

Sorry to be so dense here Garry, but I still can't find anything with his first name attached anywhere online. Do you remember your source for finding this statement? I'd love to have something that absolutely confirms his first name that I can put in my family research book.

 

[Garry]

Hi Chris,

The Stolzenauer Wochenblatt 27.4.1943 and the Hannoverscher Kurier 25.4.1943 both report that Bannführer Günther Mahlmann was to remain in post as geschäftsführender Gausportführer vice Oberabschnittsleiter Kurt Brasche.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Garry